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Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by jimktrains2 »

antihero wrote: post #7

Is there something like ownCloud that uses Python/PostgreSQL? I don't really want to pollute my server with MySQL/PHP.

This type of mentality is poisonous. You're not "polluting" your server. It doesn't add anything to the discussion; all it does is troll and set up flame-wars.

There are other good reasons to want something written in your own pet language (e.g. "I want to modify it". "I don't want to learn how to admin MySQL", even), but just claiming "pollution" isn't a good one IMO.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by chrisblackwell »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #26

I like ownCloud but it is very immature. I mean it looks very snazzy right when you first install it and start to use it, but has a lot of little issues hidden under the surface. Couple of examples: Randomly deleting files because it got confused. Infinite loops. Essentially unusable on Windows servers (don't even try). etc. As I said, I like OwnCloud, and I think it has a very bright future ahead of it. But it isn't…

WordPress at one point was very immature, but with the support of the community, it flourished into the stable giant and standard that it is today.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by juskrey »

mikeratcliffe wrote: post #49
lucb1e wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wtf, I've never had this happen. I would instantly stop using any service where this happened (especially where it's not possible to decently contact support).

I can happen if you have a large amount of contacts. I had 500 before this happened to me the first time.

It also happened to me dozen of times, and it was nothing to do with google. Just plain random touchscreen messing in the jeans pocket.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by bdowney »

modernerd wrote: post #40

I moved to http://www.atmailcloud.com and have been really pleased with it. It's $2 per account, you can host multiple domains under one control panel, it has email, contacts, and a calendar under one roof, and offers iPhone/iPad provisioning as well. You can also create subadmin accounts if you want to delegate responsibility for a certain domain to someone else.

Thanks for the info. I'd happily for a service like this than rely on Google's "free" stuff that they might the plug on any time they want to push their useless G+ crap.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by dudus »

mikeratcliffe wrote: post #46
Karunamon wrote: post #42

This seems mighty kneejerk-y. A duplicaton issue causes your contacts to disappear, therefore you should move your contacts and calendar away from a service that probably has better engineers, better backup, better redundancy, and better uptime than any one of us could possibly muster, and onto a somewhat immature product with worse functionality and integration which is by no means immune to the same kind of problem…

No, the loss of contacts happened for the first time about 3 years ago and has repeated roughly every 6 months. I don't understand why you think that Google have a better backup service than I can provide myself. I could backup my DB once per hour if I wanted. I am not anti Google but if a better service can be run from my own server then of course I will use it.

So you think your hard drive is more reliable than a Google Data Center?

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Post by [deleted] »

mikeratcliffe wrote: post #46
Karunamon wrote: post #42

This seems mighty kneejerk-y. A duplicaton issue causes your contacts to disappear, therefore you should move your contacts and calendar away from a service that probably has better engineers, better backup, better redundancy, and better uptime than any one of us could possibly muster, and onto a somewhat immature product with worse functionality and integration which is by no means immune to the same kind of problem…

No, the loss of contacts happened for the first time about 3 years ago and has repeated roughly every 6 months. I don't understand why you think that Google have a better backup service than I can provide myself. I could backup my DB once per hour if I wanted. I am not anti Google but if a better service can be run from my own server then of course I will use it.

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Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by nathanb »

dudus wrote: post #55
mikeratcliffe wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the loss of contacts happened for the first time about 3 years ago and has repeated roughly every 6 months. I don't understand why you think that Google have a better backup service than I can provide myself. I could backup my DB once per hour if I wanted. I am not anti Google but if a better service can be run from my own server then of course I will use it.

So you think your hard drive is more reliable than a Google Data Center?

No, but I suspect I care more deeply about my own data than Google do.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by psweber »

Karunamon wrote: post #42

This seems mighty kneejerk-y. A duplicaton issue causes your contacts to disappear, therefore you should move your contacts and calendar away from a service that probably has better engineers, better backup, better redundancy, and better uptime than any one of us could possibly muster, and onto a somewhat immature product with worse functionality and integration which is by no means immune to the same kind of problem…

The idea doesn't make sense for most, but it's a nice, simple set of instructions if you wanted to do it.

Re: Moving your Contacts and Calendar Away from Google

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Post by spinchange »

ses wrote: post #13

One of the problems with using a self-hosted alternative like this is the fact that Google open up a lot of their services through APIs which other applications then consume. A web app I wrote a couple of years ago is one example (meetingShed). This easy integration with other apps opens up a lot of possibilities, but is there an alternative with ownCloud? It would be really interesting to see if a solution could be…

As micampe points out in this thread, Google is shutting down their CalDAV API [0] in favor of their own proprietary one [1] OwnCloud supports the open WebDAV/CalDAV standard, as do several other self-hosted implementations [2].

[0]https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/caldav

[1]https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/

[2]http://caldav.calconnect.org/implementations/servers.html

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