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The Summly deal makes no sense

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Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#81

It makes perfect sense, they've got some technology out of it, some people who understand mobile, and a nice big headline. Worth $30m of my money? Probably not. Worth $30m of Yahoo's money? Maybe, they're not likely to have decided to spend that much on an acquihire without board approval really are they. Unless they Zuckerberg'd it and thought it was better to seek forgiveness.

What is a "people who understand mobile"?

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#83
It's possible it's a big top line number (some press quotes even higher than $30mm), but in a way which actually makes sense.

Long earn-outs could be one factor. Giving engineers $1mm with 1/2/3/4 4-year earn-outs would even be on the low side. Doing the same with a founder would obviously be worth less (especially at Yahoo!, given how founders historically leave after acquisition)

SRI is presumably getting a big chunk for a new license. Maybe even a domain-exclusive license. That alone could be $0-100mm.

If it's equity, it is a lot better for Yahoo!

It's possible the founders and key employees have a weird incentive structure -- if they continue with the product and get 50mm users, they'd get a payout of an extra $10mm vs. otherwise, for instance. That kind of thing could add to the reported deal figure without adding much risk to Yahoo!. (I'm sure I could get a "if you turn Yahoo! into a $60b/yr business in the next 3 years, you can have an extra $100mm" on any deal.)

I'm not Marissa Mayer's biggest fan, but I don't think she's in the same vein as the previous leadership at Yahoo!, so presuming that they're throwing money away irrationally isn't the first thing I'd do.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#84
"The craziest thing is that there are a lot of really qualified, CS-beefy teams doing really amazing things in the mobile news/discovery space these days"

That's true of most of these acquisitions. There are a lot of qualified people doing crazy things, but the smartest people aren't always the ones who win. That fact is immaterial here until we find out what other things they got (maybe the kid brings along investors who may buy more yahoo stock ?)

I do agree, in general, that as a public company Yahoo has to explain to shareholders why they made the acquisition.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#88
post #55

When the number sounds way too high and it's from a single anonymous source and no one else is talking - it's often a lie. People have big egos.

What's the point? Doesn't the truth come out eventually? Yahoo is a public company, their financials aren't exactly secrets.

Public companies have great leeway in how they present transactions. You aren't required to divulge M&A details, and they often won't be below a certain level.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

#89
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There's a possibility that this publicity changes younger people's perception of Yahoo's. They'll see the BBC headline and a) will now know what Yahoo! is and b) might get motivated to write/learn code and even want to go work for a tech company (even Yahoo itself). Combined with everything else Marissa Mayer is doing, (b) might actually happen, as altruistic-seeming as it might sound.

You're assuming an lot of clever forethought on the part of Yahoo. I find it hard to believe their PR team are that cunning. It's more likely that Yahoo are desperate to rejuvenate and buying up the nearest hot startup (at whatever price it takes) is politically easier than forming an internal skunkworks to build something cool, which would be way cheaper.

Re: The Summly deal makes no sense

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From the article, Let's ignore the hurt feelings that our employees will have about making a 17 year-old a millionaire. The price tag for this company aside, am I the only one that detects a hint of jealousy in some of the comments that seem to imply "but he's too young to be a millionaire!"?

As someone who isn't remotely jealous for the kid (I'm happy for him actually), let's not pretend that he is an innovator. It's a link aggregator app, no different than pulse or others. In fact, the difference from Pulse is that its inferior, because it displays far less at a time. But that is my opinion, and I'm sure a lot of older folks like it better BECAUSE it displays less. Kid: Go for it dude, and good luck. Ya…

let's not pretend that he is an innovator

C'mon, this can't be the first time you've noticed that "innovation" has been overused to the point of meaninglessness in tech. "Disruption" doubly so. Don't harp on this kid, he is no less innovative than 95+% of "innovation" I've heard about in the last year.

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