Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Terminology – a new terminal emulator

enlightenment.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–110 of 143 posts

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#101

Post by graue »

onosendai wrote: post #89
antihero wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I've moved from tmux to a tiling window manager with urxvtd. Less fiddly day-to-day and doesn't get locked up and horrible. Tabbing and whatnot are something the WM (in my case, i3) handle far better than a specific program.

If you're just using Tmux as a way to split/tab your terminals you're missing out on a ton of its functionality. For example it also allows you to detach/reattach your running session, which is invaluable if you're working remotely, and especially if you have a flaky connection. I've used it in several instances where there is more than one person handling DB upgrades and the like. You can have several panes/tabs ope…

> it also allows you to detach/reattach your running session

I use dtach(1) for this. I'm sure tmux is far more powerful, but dtach is much simpler and does all I need at this point. It's still less than a year since I learned Vim, so I'm taking a break from learning arcane programs with a zillion options for a while :P

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#102

Post by frozenport »

yati wrote: post #29

This is one thing I myself was considering writing, as there is no reason why today's terminal emulators, which I spend most of my time on my machine, shouldn't be able to also display media. This will team up with ranger very nicely for the ultimate terminal-foo!

I'm confused. What does 'cat myimage.jpg do'? You can easily display images using other programs. The terminal is for things that can be easily manipulated.

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#103

Post by bashinator »

spudlyo wrote: post #69
evilduck wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still like tabs. I'm often logged into multiple remote machines where, for me, a terminal emulator's tab represents a unique SSH connection and that tab then has tmux running on the remote machine. Otherwise, I'd be running tmux on my local machine, then want to run tmux on a remote machine, and nesting terminal multiplexers is not good.

Nesting terminal multiplexers is very good, I do it for exactly the use case you mentioned. Escaping your escape key is easy, with a little practice you won't even realize you're doing it. I have a shell function called 'go' that creates a new screen and labels it, connects to the remote host via SSH, and then recreates or re-attaches to the remote scren as appropriate. My top level screen session currently has 8 rem…

You should know that the bash-completion package in Debian and kin does tab-expansion of ssh hosts in known_hosts and config. Also handles the --argument switches for just about all common utilities.

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#104

Post by bashinator »

maxaf wrote: post #95
philsnow wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nesting terminal multiplexers is wonderful :) It kind of sucks if you accidentally use a hardstatusline in both the nesting and the nested muxes, and it slightly sucks if you use the same escape key for both/all levels of nesting. I have been using a nested screen setup for ~3 years at home and it's great. My outer screen uses ^Z as its escape key (I ^Z very few commands) and the inner ones use ^O. It works wonderful…

^Z looks like a great escape sequence. Never thought of this one. ^O is my current favorite, and ^\ isn't far behind.

I like ^J myself. Left pinky, right index finger.

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#106

Post by rossjudson »

juan_juarez wrote: post #10

Transparency and background images are great for making screenshots to show off your customized desktop. For actual daily use, they're absurd.

I allow slight transparency through terminal windows, perhaps 10%. This allows me to see motion in background windows, which is useful for keeping track of processes like lengthy compiles.

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#108

Post by pekk »

spolu wrote: post #59
micampe wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I couldn’t help thinking, while watching the video, why should my terminal load web pages and images? I’ve done the same thing both in Linux and now on OS X, by using various 'open' commands or – on OS X – 'qlmanage -p', which opens a QuickLook window for a file, just like the video is showing, but it’s system wide and not in my terminal. And this is not a “OS X had this before” post, it’s just tha…

Totally agreed. And at the same time there are so many improvements that can be done in a new terminal emulator other than displaying rich media!

Out of curiosity, what? Setting aside actual emulation of old school terminals, most of today's many terminal programs have very similar feature sets.

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#109

Post by natermer »

haraldk wrote: post #54
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #28

I used to care a lot about tabs and pane splitting in the terminal emulator. Then I discovered terminal multiplexers: screen, then tmux. Now I don't want those features in the terminal emulator anymore, as they overlap and even conflict with the terminal multiplexer.

Guys, why don't you just go ahead and get yourself a tiling window manager?? http://awesome.naquadah.org/

Or just do: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/39/put-windows/

Re: Terminology – a new terminal emulator

#110

Post by gcb0 »

dsr_ wrote: post #87
gcb0 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as someone who uses several (SEVERAL) xterms on the same screen and focus-follow-mouse, my best bet to see where my words will go when i type is to notice which screen has the blinking green cursor instead of the static white one. that one would help a lot. (i used to have a very visible window manager active border and shadows, and also lower the opacity of the non-focused ones... but gnome 3 designers in all their…

I do that with XFCE. Active window gets a bright title bar and borders with dark text, inactive windows get dark title bars with light text and thinner borders. High contrast in both cases, but easy to differentiate. Themes like that are very easy to change to suit yourself.

I know, i did that on every window manager since Irix.

But gnome3...

I'm only using it because I'm stubborn. And because i maintain one somewhat popular gui app and i want to test it where i know none of other contributors are testing

Post reply on HN