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With 'Atlas Shrugged,' Hollywood may have its first anti-bailout movie

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Re: With 'Atlas Shrugged,' Hollywood may have its first anti-bailout movie

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Post by Femur »

electromagnetic wrote: post #6
catone wrote: post #3

What's with the picture of Barney Frank? I thought this was an April fool's joke, but IMDB has a page for it and a quick Google search does turn up articles from 2006 mentioned Jolie being attached at one point.

It's been going for over 35 years, Jolie was cast but in 2008 got pregnant and the project is dead again. I personally hope it stays dead, the last thing we need is something else promoting government inaction, which gave us this problem in the first place. The main reason the financial crisis happened was pure greed and the reason people got away with being so greedy was because they were allowed to. Umm... what's t…

>I hope Ayn Rand's work is dead and gone so that at least my generation isn't going to suffer the complete stupidity.

I think a work of literature that has had such an impact should never be lost or forgotten no matter how much you disagree with the content. Mein Kampf is a great example of this.

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Post by unalone »

gfodor wrote: post #8

Everyone who I know that's read Atlas Shrugged (including myself) turned into a selfish jerk for at least a month after reading it. God help us if the "Ayn Rand temporary jerk phenomenon" is unleashed through movie theaters all at once. It's a good book but like anything else people extrapolate the points beyond recognition and additionally interpret it to re-enforce their own views, regardless of how unreasonable th…

That latter point is the problem. Atlas Shrugged is a fine novel, and I'd excuse people for being jerks if they were in fact doing the brilliant things that AS says jerks are allowed to do, but people don't do that. They read it and interpret it so that whatever they were already doing, they're allowed to keep doing.

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Post by grandalf »

gfodor wrote: post #8

Everyone who I know that's read Atlas Shrugged (including myself) turned into a selfish jerk for at least a month after reading it. God help us if the "Ayn Rand temporary jerk phenomenon" is unleashed through movie theaters all at once. It's a good book but like anything else people extrapolate the points beyond recognition and additionally interpret it to re-enforce their own views, regardless of how unreasonable th…

praise God!

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Post by unalone »

Femur wrote: post #11
electromagnetic wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been going for over 35 years, Jolie was cast but in 2008 got pregnant and the project is dead again. I personally hope it stays dead, the last thing we need is something else promoting government inaction, which gave us this problem in the first place. The main reason the financial crisis happened was pure greed and the reason people got away with being so greedy was because they were allowed to. Umm... what's t…

>I hope Ayn Rand's work is dead and gone so that at least my generation isn't going to suffer the complete stupidity. I think a work of literature that has had such an impact should never be lost or forgotten no matter how much you disagree with the content. Mein Kampf is a great example of this.

Seconded. Atlas Shrugged has a hell of a lot to teach people, young individuals in particular. Frankly, I liked the Atlas Shrugged dicks more than I liked the emo dicks at 16. The guys that read Atlas Shrugged avoided a lot of the existentialist angst, and some of them went on to do some cool things with their time. That's worth the many people who get obnoxious after reading it.

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Post by arakyd »

electromagnetic wrote: post #4
frisco wrote: post #2

I don't know how I feel about this. It's my favorite book, and I've read it many times, but I feel like it's something that either means a lot to you or means nothing. It doesn't translate very well beyond how you personally take it, and I'm afraid of flamewars breaking out over the content, which can have no winner. Or the studios missing the point to make it more mainstream. I also just have a very good internal id…

Don't worry about it, Atlas Shrugged is never going to get made. 35 years and counting kind of testifies to that effect. Angelina Jolie was cast, but she got pregnant and left the project with all the prospect of it ever being made.

Of course, that's what everybody said about Watchmen.

I've never read the book, but I've heard a lot about Ayn Rand's philosophy, none of it good.

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Post by electromagnetic »

viggity wrote: post #9
electromagnetic wrote: post #7

Coming from Europe and suffering two recessions caused by US economics, all which Ayn Rand promoted I hope this crap never gets turned into a film. The economy grows at a fair rate on average, yet Rand's aggressive-free-market capitalism basically promotes trying to grow the economy at 5000% until pop and everyone who doesn't have $500 million in the bank gets screwed over. I'm sorry, but when someone gets fired and…

I think you're sorely mistaken if you think that the economics of the US are anywhere near what Rand would consider to be Capitalism. Have you even read her books?

Very unfortunately, yes. I'm aware US economics aren't a carbon copy of what Rand wanted, because it simply doesn't work.

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Post by hermitcrab »

I tried to read 'Atlas Shrugged' recently. I only got a few chapters in before I lost interest. But I am not really much of a novel reader.

Is it worth reading the Galt speech on its own? If so, where in the books is it (I'm not reading 1,100 pages to find it)?

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Post by unalone »

arakyd wrote: post #15
electromagnetic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry about it, Atlas Shrugged is never going to get made. 35 years and counting kind of testifies to that effect. Angelina Jolie was cast, but she got pregnant and left the project with all the prospect of it ever being made.

Of course, that's what everybody said about Watchmen. I've never read the book, but I've heard a lot about Ayn Rand's philosophy, none of it good.

Well, obviously. People who hate Rand loathe her, and people who love Rand are annoying and misphrase her stuff and say stupid things.

At the core of her philosophy is the belief that you should live for yourself, that you should do things not because other people want you to but because you want to, that you should never feel guilty for the things that you can do that other people can't, and that the worst kind of person is the person who leeches off of other people. Is that none good?

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Post by unalone »

msluyter wrote: post #17

I wonder if we'll get the complete Galt speech? ;)

That's Atlas Shrugged 2, due out a month after the main movie.

(Is it too off-topic/nerdy to make comparisons between that speech and the Spirit Bomb week from Dragonball Z? Something about way-too-long things is extremely hilarious.)

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