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#61
I use Ashtanga yoga as a means of getting into a meditative state, and I find that maybe 10% of the time I actually achieve some extended meditation while performing the movements and breathing. I trust that with more practice that will improve, but the immediate benefit I have felt is improved flexibility and reduced pain in my joints (I'm 31 with above average mileage).

On the other hand, I took up slack-lining a couple summers ago. When the weather is nice, I can hang a line and spend about 15-30 minutes walking it, but it always feels like hours have passed when I finish. The concentration required to balance is the best means I know of for leaving the world behind.

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#62
Intrigued to see this on HN. Could someone explain the context?

Why do you meditate? For its therapeutic benefits. It helps me see things with fresh eyes.

What kind of meditation do you do? Mostly watching my breath. But most of the effort is actually in getting to my cushion! I love a lot of the sentiment in Zen, eg; "What is known as 'realising the mystery' is nothing but breaking through to grab an ordinary person's life".

How long have you practiced? Over 10 years.

How long is each meditation session? 30-45 minutes.

Do you meditate alone or with others? Mostly on my own, though I go on week-long, silent meditations twice a year to a place in Devon, UK called Gaia House.

What effects or benefits have you experienced? It has effected the most profound and radical change possible. It has given me access to a freedom and peace that I could never have imagined in my wildest fantasies.

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#63
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vow of Now was created for this very purpose, to instill meditation as a daily habit. Slightly controversial perhaps, but it works: http://vowofnow.com P.S. I'm the founder.

I was looking for some long term solution that is not guilt-driven. Still, thanks for the link and I'll probably eat my words someday and try it out.

The guilt part is entirely up to you and not essential to taking the vow. :)

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#64
I recently started meditating, using the method in "Mindfulness in Plain English". So far, I've been able to meditate for between 1 to 3 hours at a time, every day. I do feel quite a bit of calm afterwards and during the deep parts of the meditation, and have also experienced some occasional hallucinations (like a feeling of intense bliss, like my arms are floating, like my chest is a hundred feet from my head) when I am deep in meditation. Also, I've found that when I need to do some chore in my daily life, if I start focusing on my breath, it helps me to not feel so bored or resentful.

I am looking forward to hopefully being able to enter deep states of calm more readily and spontaneously as my meditation practice deepens. However, the effects I describe above are somehow not enough for me. I am a seeker, and naturally curious. I want to find out what (if anything) lies beyond our ordinary perception of the world. Is what we normally take to be the "real world" (or "objective reality", "external reality", etc) actually an illusion like Buddhism and Hinduism claim? If so, can the techniques of Buddhist or Hindu meditation really reveal the "true reality" beyond the illusion of the ordinary world? I would like to find out.

Today, I found an interesting article[1], which argues that the kind of meditation taught in "Mindfulness in Plain English" (which is the kind most people today think of when they think of the word "meditation"), while "it has obvious benefits [such as health and calm]... does not lead to liberation from suffering".[2] This is because, the author argues, this type of meditation practice tries to avoid painful experiences (by focusing back on the breath), and therefore leads to "the attachment to aversion to suffering".

The type of meditation the author advocates is quite different. I encourage you to read the article for details, but essentially it seems to consist in observing whatever happens in your mind without trying to control it, without trying to avoid it, curiously and observantly following wherever it leads.

This method of meditating sounds interesting, and I look forward to trying it in the future.

I am also interested in finding and trying other methods of meditation. I know there are lots of them, from focusing on the breath, to focusing between the eyebrows (the so-called "third eye"), to focusing on various external objects such as candle flames, mandalas[5], or even corpses. Some forms of meditations utilize mantras[6] or other techniques for maintaining focus.

One other type of meditation that I did try briefly was kinhin[7], or walking meditation, which is described in some detail in "The Three Pillars of Zen" (a book I highly recommend, though with a grain of salt, as it seems to have a bit of a bias towards a particular tradition of Zen). It was quite interesting, and may be a good way to start and end a sitting or zazen[8] form of meditation.

[1] - http://ronsharrin.com/writings/mindfulness.pdf

[2] - The author uses the term "suffering", probably referring to the Buddhist concept of dukkha[3], which is often translated as "suffering" (and is the first of the so-called Four Noble Truths[4], as in "life is suffering"), but may be better translated as "dissatisfaction" or the "problematic" aspects of life.

[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukkha

[4] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_Truths

[5] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandala

[6] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantra

[7] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinhin

[8] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazen

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#65
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Missing an option: I've never tried it, but would be open to it. If someone could give a rational (non-mystical) explanation of how and why to do it. Or point me to an existing one.

I can't find the one I watched but there is good stuff on this site about the science and neurology behind meditation.

http://www.buddhistgeeks.com

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#66
If you really are a programmer you do meditation whenever you are working, the process of meditation is to contemplate on some subject, object or whatever. So yes I do meditate, at work and daily on Lord's holy name.

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#67
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Meditation is often confused with meditatIVE activities. Sitting and trying to meditate doesn't mean you'll meditate, but meditation almost always requires you to sit still. When you're in meditation, you'll know - your mind will be in a different state (akin to sleep). Keep practicing :) it takes a while, but once you get it, I promise it's worth it.

Technically (within the yogic meditation tradition), 'concentration' is defined as 12 seconds of one-pointed thought, ie the mind is fixed in one place. This is considered 1 unit of concentration. 'Meditation' is considered 12 units of concentration, so 12 * 12 seconds which is 144 seconds. So technically, according to the definition of the old school meditators practicing 1000s of years ago, you are not really 'medi…

"Technically (within the yogic meditation tradition), 'concentration' is defined as..."

Which yogic meditation tradition? There are dozens if not hundreds of them, interpreted in a myriad of different ways by thousands if not millions of teachers across the millennia.

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#68
Its possibly the most important daily task I have. If you go for weeks meditating, and then take a week off, you'll know what just hit you.

The first week is the hardest. Stick it out. The benefits will come. I use Jon Kabat's tapes and they're perfect.

I meditate for 20 minutes in the morning with one simple rule. DO NOT check email or any input that gives you information (ie. news / social media) before your meditation. It will only make it more difficult.

Last year I went on my first meditation retreat and it was rather insightful. An entire weekend can clear the noise completely from my mind without any urge to dive back into technology.

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#70
I haven't yet been able to decide whether meditation is legit or not.

I keep reading about how awesome it is, how much "scientifically proven benefits" it has. But as soon as you try to learn a little more, everything is mingled with bullshit religious mumbo jumpo. It's difficult to find nice rational sources about the subject.

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