This is a bit creepy but it is the kind of thing that could be guessed from facebook activity so it is kind of to be expected. Lately I've been seeing ads that correlate with things that happen to me completely outside Facebook. About things on sites I only access through google for example. I find this more disturbing. I checked the "Block third-party cookies and site data" in Chrome so they shouldn't be able to tra…
Facebook knows you’re gay before you do
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#52This is a bit creepy but it is the kind of thing that could be guessed from facebook activity so it is kind of to be expected. Lately I've been seeing ads that correlate with things that happen to me completely outside Facebook. About things on sites I only access through google for example. I find this more disturbing. I checked the "Block third-party cookies and site data" in Chrome so they shouldn't be able to tra…
I don't believe there are feeds that are real time enough to support next day purchase correlation, but there certainly will be in the future.
Note that even if you've given them bad or no data when you obtained the affinity card they still match you with your credit cards that you've used at the grocery.
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#53The EU data protection act contains the concept of sensitive personal data thanks to the abuse of people by the Nazis. It includes ethnic origin, religion, medical information and sexuality.
The idea is that once you can put together a list of people meeting a particular criteria it's very easy to round them up. While I don't think Facebook or the US are in danger of that kind of excess, neither was Holland before the second world war. Yet one of the reasons for the high death toll of Dutch Jews was the good state of the records:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Netherlands_(193...
I think it might be a good idea for Facebook and others to consider not just the data they have but also the inferences that can be drawn on it, and reflect whether that leaves them with certain responsibilities like easy opt out or not storing certain things.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think they stopped it. Just adjusted it so the offers we're alongside random stuff (eg discounts on lawn mowers). That way people wouldn't freak out (presumably because they didn't know how much the company really knew about them) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.h... Edit: Worth posting the whole quote (just found it). “With the pregnancy products, though, we learned that some women…
Offering alcohol to someone you know is pregnant, ugh.
In other words, wine glasses are on par with lawn mowers as far as pregnant women are concerned. They know women aren't interested in them.
Re: Facebook knows you’re gay before you do
#55This is a bit creepy but it is the kind of thing that could be guessed from facebook activity so it is kind of to be expected. Lately I've been seeing ads that correlate with things that happen to me completely outside Facebook. About things on sites I only access through google for example. I find this more disturbing. I checked the "Block third-party cookies and site data" in Chrome so they shouldn't be able to tra…
Another hypothesis is that Facebook had been showing you the barbeque sauce ad all along, which is why you bought it. You only noticed afterwards.
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#56Can they predict how long before I finally am off the Facebook platform?
Never. I don't have a Facebook account, but it'd be pretty naive of me to assume they don't have a profile on me as well, especially since they've already admitted doing so[1]. [1]: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2011-11-15/fa...
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#57Many users may not realize that you don't need to actually click these widgets in order to be recorded by them. Unless you're using a blocker (e.g. Ghostery or DoNotTrackMe), your browser is pinging facebook every time they're included on a page.
Visit a few gay porn sites that have those widgets embedded and facebook can make a pretty educated guess you're gay.
Do porn sites not embed these things? Ok, how about any number of LGBTQ blogs, news sites, advocacy sites, or even sites that just show things that appeal slightly more to a gay audience than average, such as men's fashion or disney showtunes.
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#58This was especially fun in my case when, under the heading "You might like" I had: " just signed up on ". :)
I don't entirely mind them profiling me based on what I choose to put on Facebook. But leaking it to my friends is weird.
(I know you can restrict the audience for everything you do, and I actively do this, but it is soooo easy to slip up).
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#59This is a bit creepy but it is the kind of thing that could be guessed from facebook activity so it is kind of to be expected. Lately I've been seeing ads that correlate with things that happen to me completely outside Facebook. About things on sites I only access through google for example. I find this more disturbing. I checked the "Block third-party cookies and site data" in Chrome so they shouldn't be able to tra…
Re: Facebook knows you’re gay before you do
#60A little while ago in a conversation about privacy an acquaintance told me that he feels good about the fact there is someone or something out there that cares about his interests, even if it's Google [1]. Thinking back to this brings up in my mind the conversation with the AI Morpheus in Deus Ex [2]; looks like it is still a tossup whether it will turn out to have been prescient. I don't consider data mining to be inherently unethical but I'm not sure what to think of this.
[1] To put this in context, at the time the person in question also reported feeling depressed and lonely.
[2] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Deus_Ex#Morpheus_2
I'll quote the juiciest part:
"Morpheus: Human beings feel pleasure when they are watched. I have recorded their smiles as I tell them who they are.
JC Denton: Some people just don't understand the dangers of indiscriminate surveillance.
Morpheus: The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
JC Denton: Electronic surveillance hardly inspires reverence. Perhaps fear and obedience, but not reverence.
Morpheus: God and the gods were apparitions of observation, judgment and punishment. Other sentiments towards them were secondary.
JC Denton: No one will ever worship a software entity peering at them through a camera.
Morpheus: The human organism always worships. First, it was the gods, then it was fame (the observation and judgment of others), next it will be self-aware systems you have built to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment.
JC Denton: You underestimate humankind's love of freedom.
Morpheus: The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization."