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72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit

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Re: 72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit

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Personally I don't care about credit, I do it for the learning and opportunity to work together with people from all around the world.

However, I do think there should be a possibility to earn credits or certificates as it is important for some.

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72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit from their home institution.

The headline makes it sound like they don't think MOOC students deserve any kind of credit, which is a much stronger statement.

Re: 72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit

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Copied from my comment on an earlier posting of the same story-

From the original article- "However, it's worth noting that more than a quarter of the professors felt that their successful MOOC students do deserve credit. Those respondents include faculty members at Penn, Princeton, Duke, and Stanford. Most of them led courses that were oriented to math, science, and engineering." Which makes sense, those are subjects which are probably best suited to this kind of approach.

I've taken a number of MOOCs, from EDx, Coursera, and Udacity. I'm an addict, always in at least one and plan to pretty much permanently keep doing them as long as it's possible to do so.

The 6.002x from EDx was probably the most rigorous of the ones I've done, and I felt a solid sense of accomplishment when it was over. But I don't think I should be awarded MIT credit for it, mostly due to the limited substitutions for lab work.

In fact, I don't think college credit would be appropriate for any of the classes I've done. However, the certificates for most of them do have meaning, and should be taken by employers as a sign that someone is likely to have some competency in the area.

Yes, cheating is possible, so it's not automatic, but you should always be evaluating someone's actual skills that matter to you anyway. An A in a class on their college transcript also doesn't guarantee mastery in any way whatsoever. It's just an indicator that the person may have such.

Re: 72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit

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72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit from their home institution . The headline makes it sound like they don't think MOOC students deserve any kind of credit, which is a much stronger statement.

I agree with this. I was a bit indignant at first, but, when I realized what they meant, I thought it makes sense.

Re: 72% Of Professors Who Teach Online Courses Don't Think Students Deserve Credit

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I'm taking the UC Berkeley class in AI through edx.com and I can see why you wouldn't want to offer credit. It would be way to easy to cheat without having some paid testing company giving tests like they do for certification exams. But it is a great resource for surveying a discipline and seeing how its taught in a major university.

I don't see any reason why they couldn't make it work for the kind of massive introductory courses freshman take. How is it worse than 500 students taught by a grad student in a state university lecture hall?

I think at least some of the opposition is by professors worried about protecting their jobs and not wanting to lose the comfortable path they have trod so many years. But they will likely have no choice. I'm not sure how it will end up, but academia can no more avoid the massive changes in our world brought on by the internet than bookstores or newspapers could. If higher education was a free market and not so massively subsidized, the changes would have already happened. Given a choice would anyone want to pay the $200,000 full price for a four year university degree in say something like English lit if it were coming out of their own pocket?

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