I think my ideal way to land a job would be
1) contribute to some open source project.
2) get a beer with the company's dev team at a hackathon.
3) job offer.
How To Hire Me (or any other programmer)
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#32Number 1 rule for hiring geeks.
- Do not ask for a .doc Microsoft Word document resume
Because we might be scrambling and downloading LibreOffice and converting our .latex resume to .doc, if you want to get our attention, ask for TXT, PDF or LaTeX format.
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#33“Node.js V8 Korean-language backend optimization engineer”
Thats hilarious. I recently was job hunting and I ignored prob 20% of position due to that fact alone.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Writing code by hand reveals far more than you give it credit for. Someone omits a semicolon? Bam, conversation about semicolons or ASI. It's not about the fanciest solution. And anyone who does it that way is foolish. It's the purest test of Language facility, and a really good springboard for all kinds of questions. Downvoters: have you actually tried to hire someone?
Conversation about semicolons? During a job interview? I'm sorry, but this is a waste of time. Why don't you talk about, you know, algorithms? Concurrency? Databases? Testing? Or anything that is more than remotely relevant to the job?
"It's the purest test of Language facility"
None of your alternatives "algorithms? Concurrency? Databases? Testing?" really test language facility. Those are important, and they have their place in the interview process, but so does language awareness.
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#35Wow, full of great advice. The biggest one for me is: acknowledge applicants. I've hired and know what a hassle it can be, but use a system, and respond to everyone. Set deadlines, and if you miss them, acknowledge that. Look, this is a possible team member--why would they believe you'll treat them with respect when they are employees if you don't treat them with respect when they aren't? Basically, it's the golden r…
If you give me a few seconds of your time to say thanks, I probably won't mind spending a few minutes staying late to get a task completed.
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#36He who is getting hired is at the mercy of the person doing the hiring. That's just how it plays out. If I'm getting hired, I have no say on how a company should conduct their interview process. Their interview process is a window into how they operate, and if it's terrible, I won't want to work for them. i would hate to have a great interview process only to find out that the company is terrible. There is a need for terrible interview processes, so long as it matches the company. The last time I had a bunch of interviews, there was a company I interviewed at, they were so terrible I knew I didn't want to work for them. At the new company, I ran into people who interviewed at same company and refused to work for them, and into two more who use to work for that company and were glad to leave.
With that said, the biggest motivation for me is compensation. I don't care what problems they are trying to solve, I don't have to love it. Want me to write in COBOL? Fine, I'll learn it. Want me to work 10hrs a day? Fine, compensate me accordingly. Everything has a price.
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#37How to hire me: 1. Tell me about the 3 biggest things you must accomplish. 2. Tell me why you must accomplish them. 3. Tell me when you must accomplish them by. 4. Tell me how you intend to accomplish them. 5. Tell me what you're already doing to accomplish them. 6. Tell me the role you envision me playing in accomplishing them. 7. Tell me what you expect from me. 8. Put me with some of the key people already working…
A good Chinese buffet. If you can't tell, or don't want to pay for, the difference, well...
P.S. (The secret is that good and cost are not in direct correspondence across the population of Chinese buffets.)
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#38How to hire me: 1. Tell me about the 3 biggest things you must accomplish. 2. Tell me why you must accomplish them. 3. Tell me when you must accomplish them by. 4. Tell me how you intend to accomplish them. 5. Tell me what you're already doing to accomplish them. 6. Tell me the role you envision me playing in accomplishing them. 7. Tell me what you expect from me. 8. Put me with some of the key people already working…
> 10. Take me to a Chinese buffet.
No need for the rest, this will do.
Actually, in all seriousness there is at least one start up here in Germany which hiring process consist in going for a beer with the founders and members of the team you'll work with, and only follow up if you liked each other. It's probably not very scalable for the founders as the company grows, but still an interesting approach.
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#39How to hire me: 1. Tell me about the 3 biggest things you must accomplish. 2. Tell me why you must accomplish them. 3. Tell me when you must accomplish them by. 4. Tell me how you intend to accomplish them. 5. Tell me what you're already doing to accomplish them. 6. Tell me the role you envision me playing in accomplishing them. 7. Tell me what you expect from me. 8. Put me with some of the key people already working…
(The following is made up and CERTAINLY isn't for the job I currently have open for a senior PHP dev in Melbourne.AU)
Here's why you don't see question one answered honestly:
A. Our sales guys sold our product based on feature "Foo" a year ago. We haven't started coding but they need a demo next week. You have to grok our codebase and write it on your first day.
B. The 'Bar' feature was written by a guy who should have failed finger painting, but we don't have time to rewrite it. You have to fix the many patches and modifications it's had since.
C. The 'Zap' feature was written by our cowboy programmer. You have to do all his bug fixes and modifications because he thinks he's too important for anything but new code.
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#40He who is getting hired is at the mercy of the person doing the hiring. That's just how it plays out. If I'm getting hired, I have no say on how a company should conduct their interview process. Their interview process is a window into how they operate, and if it's terrible, I won't want to work for them. i would hate to have a great interview process only to find out that the company is terrible. There is a need for…
I find that people don't respond well to this 'mercenary' attitude. They usually want you to act like you love it, even if it's stupid. They want you to commit long-term, even if you are a temporary contractor. Etc.
Every company is like an oversensitive lover who has to be the best ever.