Why should I care? Why support girls who code? Do girls need special treatment? Is someone preventing them from writing code? I couldn't care less if no girl ever wrote another line of code. Code either works or it doesn't. There's no grey area. No "affirmative action" for code. Who cares who writes it?
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#52So I just bought one, but am now regretting it. You need to make it clear "Girls Who Code" has nothing to do with this shirt. "We intend to give the money to Girls Who Code. In the event that they do not accept the money we'll look for another charity that supports women in tech." While I firmly stand on the side of the poor bastard who got fired for making a simple joke, I find it distasteful that a bunch of guys wo…
I don't understand why you find that distasteful? I've spent way more time than I should have following many, many conversations about this insanity. When you filter out the crazies on either side, it seems that most rational people have decided that it's ok to make fun of things, even if your joke isn't for everyone.
I think it's unfortunate that you're saying that a man or group of men shouldn't be able to raise money for a group aimed at getting more women into technology. They're more than likely not using it as a cover for their bro-vinistic villainy.
I personally think the more people we can get to make fun of all of this stuff, the better off we'll all be. Fun, it's what makes life worth living.
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#53http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/dongle/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dongle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongle
interesting to see the various origins and definitions.
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#54Seems a little mean spirited - even if for a good cause and all.
How is it mean spirited? I don't like the joke too much (maybe I'm too geeky but the underlying premise doesn't make sense to me and in a good joke it IMHO should) but why is it "mean"? Probably if you're invited to visit the home of one of the persons who suffered in the ordeal, it'd be mean to wear it, but otherwise - why mean?
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#55Wow... How did HN become a den of self-righteous, humorless self-flagellation. Someone tried to do something funny after all the overheated rhetoric of the past of couple of days along with introducing a clever bit of entrepreneurship in the process. Whether you'd buy the shirt or not (I won't) at least try to appreciate the initiative and cheekiness.
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#56Wow... How did HN become a den of self-righteous, humorless self-flagellation. Someone tried to do something funny after all the overheated rhetoric of the past of couple of days along with introducing a clever bit of entrepreneurship in the process. Whether you'd buy the shirt or not (I won't) at least try to appreciate the initiative and cheekiness.
Some of us are still shellshocked after receiving numerous death threats and having our inboxes spammed with pictures of dismembered infants. Maybe waiting one fucking hot minute would be in order?
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#57Wow... How did HN become a den of self-righteous, humorless self-flagellation. Someone tried to do something funny after all the overheated rhetoric of the past of couple of days along with introducing a clever bit of entrepreneurship in the process. Whether you'd buy the shirt or not (I won't) at least try to appreciate the initiative and cheekiness.
Some of us are still shellshocked after receiving numerous death threats and having our inboxes spammed with pictures of dismembered infants. Maybe waiting one fucking hot minute would be in order?
Hi rmrfrmrf. I went through your recent comments. By and large, they're highly inflammatory. Ease off on the vitriol and your life might get a bit easier.
To be precise, these are the comments that I find inflammatory:
> Because anti-woman and anti-black hate groups are trying to game HN with mass account creation and upvote spam.
> SendGrid would have come out stronger from weathering the storm as a defender and promoter of women in tech. Instead, they're giving in to terrorism. Anyone feeling a sense of relief out of this situation is out of their mind.
> I hope she sues the shit out of them and gets enough money to spend the rest of her life advocating for women in tech without fear of retaliation.
> No, this situation is the worst thing for women in tech. I can't begin to imagine the waves of misogyny that're about to run rampant through the tech community knowing that any woman who speaks out will be fired.
> Please take your special snowflakery elsewhere.
> No. (without explanation)
> In other words, it's OK if men do it, but not if a woman does it. (which was a complete non sequitur)
> I can't even begin to explain how fallacious this argument is. (without explanation, and it wasn't fallacious)
> Is it really that hard to act like a professional adult while you're at work? The simplest solution is to simply stop telling penis jokes at work.
> Still unfunny and tasteless. Imagine that.
> Really? All it says to me is that people in the tech field are so against a woman standing up for herself that they're actually willing to bring down the company she works for. It's disgusting.
> (cont.) Will you also feel schadenfreude when they hack her bank account?
> I bet he won't make the same mistake again. Perhaps we're all so used to going through the 6 month HR-slap-on-the-wrist process that we have lost touch of what it actually takes to change a person's behavior. (supporting mr-hank getting fired)
> Thank you -- all of these hate-laden comments are making me lose my mind.
> Since when is Twitter the same thing as a professional conference? Why are the majority of the commenters on HN completely missing the point?
> She @-replied pycon staff. Compare that to the HN and Reddit communities out for Adria's head.
> "We're not choosing your company because we believe in the right for men to tell dick jokes."
> (cont.) I'd quickly e-mail back: "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."
> Thank you, Adria, for fighting the good fight. I hope that the voices of support for you drown out the rampant hate that you're receiving. Seems like HN turns into a complete shithole the second a woman "has the nerve to choose to be offended" or whatever bullshit these misogynist assholes peddle.
> (cont.) The benefit that I always see from situations like this is that it empowers the women who, in the past, have been too nervous to call people out on their shit. Just know that you're doing amazing work and are paving the way to creating an environment of gender equality.
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#58So I just bought one, but am now regretting it. You need to make it clear "Girls Who Code" has nothing to do with this shirt. "We intend to give the money to Girls Who Code. In the event that they do not accept the money we'll look for another charity that supports women in tech." While I firmly stand on the side of the poor bastard who got fired for making a simple joke, I find it distasteful that a bunch of guys wo…
Karen Cheng appears to be a woman. Or are you using 'guys' in the gender-neutral sense?
I was sort of using it in the "As best I can tell, all these people are dudes", sense. Like, Finbarr is a dude. If there's a girl involved, maybe that's less terrible.
And yes, I realize how ridiculous that is, but that's just kinda how these things work.
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#59I am uncomfortable with the implied support for out of date hardware copy protection practices.
What is this the 70's? Of course we need protection.
Ok, would this comment be appropriate in the workplace? Vote up/down.
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#60Fuck anyone who buys this. Adria did a real mean thing in response to some juvenile jokes, but this is the real fucking problem and if someone got shamed for this , they'd deserve it.
This seems like a disproportionate response to what is, at worst, an inappropriate joke tshirt.