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Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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I'm wondering how much space would be left if every company in the states all decide to switch to solar energy.

Why wonder? I worked it out once and for the USA you'd only need an area the size of Edwards Air Force Base, and the existence of Edwards AFB proves that such allocation of space is not objectionable.

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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It's a good collateral effect for the environment, but it's all about money.

Then why isn't everyone doing it? And if it does become all about 'the money' then that's great, whatever gets large companies on-board with being as environmentally responsible as possible can only be a good thing.. The faster it becomes a no-brainer decision the better.

Who knows, may be they cannot afford it !?

I just think it's dust in eyes :) in 2011 was least green because of it's coal usage and now it's pure 100%...

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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I'm wondering how much space would be left if every company in the states all decide to switch to solar energy.

I haven't read through this yet, but it looks like an attempt at answering that question: http://landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

"... we arrive at 496,804,500,000 square meters or 496,805 square kilometers (191,817 square miles) as the area required to power the world with solar panels. This is roughly equal to the area of Spain."

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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This is great, but I bet apple's suppliers and manufacturers aren't anywhere close to this level of renewable energy.

So what's the point? Do you think its still better than not using renewable energy or not? Also there is no mandate to use 100% renewable energy is there?

The point is that this is green washing, and the bulk of their manufacturing operations is excluded from this "100%" figure.

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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How much energy would they get from burning $1 bills that they've collected over the years from all the Pabst swilling hipsters?

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Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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This is some pretty deceptive marketing. Apple's data centers still run on coal in places like North Carolina because that's is what is producing the electricity on the grid. Their renewable projects produce a decent amount of electricity, but one of the most critical issues of the electrical grid is stability and solar, even with the fuel cells does not provide enough electricity on cloudy days or over night. Solar,…

This marketing might make some people feel good, but it is deceptive.

I just assume marketing == deception, anymore. I know that isn't really an accurate view of reality, but it leaves me less upset when I find out they are in fact being deceptive.

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what's the point? Do you think its still better than not using renewable energy or not? Also there is no mandate to use 100% renewable energy is there?

The point is that this is green washing, and the bulk of their manufacturing operations is excluded from this "100%" figure.

I don't understand. The article clearly says the data center is using renewable energy right? You say it like its a bad thing. Every one knows the manufacturing side is what it is. Where is the intent to fool anyone here? Please point me to it.

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't read through this yet, but it looks like an attempt at answering that question: http://landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

"... we arrive at 496,804,500,000 square meters or 496,805 square kilometers (191,817 square miles) as the area required to power the world with solar panels. This is roughly equal to the area of Spain."

That figure is to power the whole world. The original questions was about the US, which requires a substantially smaller area.

Re: Apple's Data Centers Now Running on 100% Renewable Energy

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This is some pretty deceptive marketing. Apple's data centers still run on coal in places like North Carolina because that's is what is producing the electricity on the grid. Their renewable projects produce a decent amount of electricity, but one of the most critical issues of the electrical grid is stability and solar, even with the fuel cells does not provide enough electricity on cloudy days or over night. Solar,…

That's Apple's style...

To be fair, their products are really improving in the area of energy efficiency

EDIT: If you are going to downvote, at least point to proof that it isn't happening

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