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Adria Richards fired by SendGrid for outting developers

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Re: Adria Richards fired by SendGrid for outting developers

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Post by throwaway125 »

neeee wrote: post #9
nvr219 wrote: post #3

direct link: https://www.facebook.com/SendGrid/posts/10151502570463967

This was taken off the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5416021 Edit: this thread is also gone

guess this thread is also gone from the front page now.

Re: Adria Richards fired by SendGrid for outting developers

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Post by CJefferson »

mwetzler wrote: post #11

A terrifying precedent for all women in tech.

I disagree, I think too much of this has got wrapped up in male/female terms.

People making off-colour jokes at a conference is unacceptable (perhaps not a firing offence).

Posting pictures of fellow attendees from a conference, while your work is paying you to be there, with insulting messages about them, is also unacceptable (but perhaps not a firing offence).

No-one involved here comes off particularly well, but I truely believe if if Ardia had done any (or all) of:

* Talk privately to the people * Talk privately to the organiser of PyCon * Talk publicly about the issue, without giving out pictures or names

She would not now be having a problem of anywhere near the same size, or now be fired.

Re: Adria Richards fired by SendGrid for outting developers

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Post by afandian »

mwetzler wrote: post #11

A terrifying precedent for all women in tech.

What has this got to do with women? Anyone could have found those jokes offensive, whatever their gender. And no-one has the right to protection from being offended, whatever their gender.

Re: Adria Richards fired by SendGrid for outting developers

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Post by warmwaffles »

arrrg wrote: post #17
mhurron wrote: post #8

Equality is a good thing.

This is not equality, it’s a clusterfuck. Two wrongs don’t make a right. In the end the bullies won.

I don't see it as that. There were better ways to handle the situation. She shouldn't have public shamed them without asking them to stop first.

Re: Adria Richards fired by SendGrid for outting developers

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Post by arrrg »

warmwaffles wrote: post #18
arrrg wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not equality, it’s a clusterfuck. Two wrongs don’t make a right. In the end the bullies won.

I don't see it as that. There were better ways to handle the situation. She shouldn't have public shamed them without asking them to stop first.

Probably.

Sadly, humans are not perfect. Making dumb jokes and posting a photo of those who made dumb jokes online? Dumb mistakes.

Firing people, DDoS attacks, vile threats: Now that’s a shitty clusterfuck. The bullies have driven the conversation.

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