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I’m done with the web

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Re: I’m done with the web

#2
> The community has tossed out everything we’ve learned from the last 30 years of building applications in favor of being able to put something together quickly with complete disregard for maintainability or extendability.

That's spot on. You can add in to that that all the lessons of the process of developing software have also been discarded and are slowly being re-learned.

It is as if with the birth of the web there was a complete reboot of the IT industry which accidentally also re-formatted the drive that held our knowledge about how you go about software development (which is different from knowledge about what it is that you are building, and different still from the technical details of your implementation).

On top of all that the web is incredibly messy.

Re: I’m done with the web

#3
Amen brother. A lot of the problems stem from the cargo culting of various technologies and patterns (I'm looking at you, inflexible templating languages).

Also a lot of these issues come from looking at each piece in the development cycle separately rather than holistically. Frameworks like meteor are starting to address this, but we still have a lot of work to do.

Re: I’m done with the web

#5
>Ember is very close to the “micro” side of things, but at a “whopping” 49KB (less than a second download on a dial-up internet connection

Chances are that you probably never had a dial-up connection. 49KB on dial-up generally takes around 10 seconds.

Besides this point, the accusatory tone towards front-end developers and 'the rest of the world' that did not understand you isn't helping to get your point across. You were in the wrong place in wrong time. It happens. Move on. There are better things to do, and bitterness only hurts yourself.

Re: I’m done with the web

#6
>Ember is very close to the “micro” side of things, but at a “whopping” 49KB (less than a second download on a dial-up internet connection)it’s still far too big for many.

Erm, isn't dial up at 56kilobits per second? It will take much longer than a second to download 49KB.

Re: I’m done with the web

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post #2

> The community has tossed out everything we’ve learned from the last 30 years of building applications in favor of being able to put something together quickly with complete disregard for maintainability or extendability. That's spot on. You can add in to that that all the lessons of the process of developing software have also been discarded and are slowly being re-learned. It is as if with the birth of the web the…

> On top of all that the web is incredibly messy.

That is arguably both a bug and a feature. The web is an untended jungle, possibly the most diverse of any technical ecosystem.

Democracy and markets are messy too, but I think most of us would rather not give those up.

Re: I’m done with the web

#9

>Ember is very close to the “micro” side of things, but at a “whopping” 49KB (less than a second download on a dial-up internet connection Chances are that you probably never had a dial-up connection. 49KB on dial-up generally takes around 10 seconds. Besides this point, the accusatory tone towards front-end developers and 'the rest of the world' that did not understand you isn't helping to get your point across. You…

Perhaps someone forgot to multiply by 8.

Re: I’m done with the web

#10
The web is the only future of software development. It's open, free, innovative, and unpredictable. It didn't pick your Cappuccino, sorry for you, but that's OK for the rest of us.
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