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Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

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Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#11

Post by niggler »

orangethirty wrote: post #10
niggler wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This product is very, very effective, and I recommend it. Disclaimer: I have never worked with this company, and have no business interests in it." Did you personally use the service? If so, could you give some more details regarding your experience?

I use this kind of re-targeting all of the time. Have not had the opportunity to do so with this company. But they all work in the same practical manner. I have been following them for some time and met one of the founders. Very impressed by how they do things. I will be using it for a future product I'm launching. Honestly, you can't go wrong with it. Sometimes you can just tell by the people behind products. I norm…

"This product is very, very effective, and I recommend it." was the claim you made. "Have not had the opportunity to do so with this company." End of discussion.

I don't doubt that the people behind the product are sharp, but its very very poor form to recommend a product with a claim to product effectiveness without having used it first. And to be clear, I wouldn't have an objection if all you said was that you recommend the product because you were impressed with the people. This not only makes me question your integrity on this claim, it will cast doubt on other recommendations you make in the future.

Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#12

Post by orangethirty »

niggler wrote: post #11
orangethirty wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use this kind of re-targeting all of the time. Have not had the opportunity to do so with this company. But they all work in the same practical manner. I have been following them for some time and met one of the founders. Very impressed by how they do things. I will be using it for a future product I'm launching. Honestly, you can't go wrong with it. Sometimes you can just tell by the people behind products. I norm…

"This product is very, very effective, and I recommend it." was the claim you made. "Have not had the opportunity to do so with this company." End of discussion. I don't doubt that the people behind the product are sharp, but its very very poor form to recommend a product with a claim to product effectiveness without having used it first. And to be clear, I wouldn't have an objection if all you said was that you reco…

Oh I use this type of product with a lot of campaigns. Have nt used them yet, due to how I have had no choice to pick it. I do think the people behind the product are stand up guys and their trajectory and growth shows that they provide a good value. That for me is enough to say that I reccomend others to look into it. Just like people tell other peoe to buy Toyotas even if they have never owned one. Their reputation stands for itself.

And before you question my integrity publicly, realize that I did not circle around your question. I answered it in a respectful manner and did not obscure any detail. I cod have just ignored it, but your claim was a valid one. I will not change the answer or hide behind anything because I sat d by it.

Your person attack against me does show a rather poor judgement and attitude towards others. No need to disrespect me publicly. A reasonable argument would have been enough. I understand if my personal opinion seems wrong to you, but I do no tolerate the type of attitude showcased in your post.

Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#13

Post by niggler »

orangethirty wrote: post #12
niggler wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This product is very, very effective, and I recommend it." was the claim you made. "Have not had the opportunity to do so with this company." End of discussion. I don't doubt that the people behind the product are sharp, but its very very poor form to recommend a product with a claim to product effectiveness without having used it first. And to be clear, I wouldn't have an objection if all you said was that you reco…

Oh I use this type of product with a lot of campaigns. Have nt used them yet, due to how I have had no choice to pick it. I do think the people behind the product are stand up guys and their trajectory and growth shows that they provide a good value. That for me is enough to say that I reccomend others to look into it. Just like people tell other peoe to buy Toyotas even if they have never owned one. Their reputation…

I recommend you go through https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5302116, which was a discussion in which another person recommended a product. The upshot is that people see HN as a different type of forum compared to other places, and some people may actually read your original post as a personal testimonial (regardless of the disclosure, the phrase "This product is very, very effective" highly suggests you've used the product).

"And before you question my integrity publicly ... Your person attack against me"

If this were any other context, I would accuse you of shilling (and draw an analogy to penny stock pumping). Since this is HN, I take you on your word that you have no financial interest.

Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#14

Post by orangethirty »

niggler wrote: post #13
orangethirty wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I use this type of product with a lot of campaigns. Have nt used them yet, due to how I have had no choice to pick it. I do think the people behind the product are stand up guys and their trajectory and growth shows that they provide a good value. That for me is enough to say that I reccomend others to look into it. Just like people tell other peoe to buy Toyotas even if they have never owned one. Their reputation…

I recommend you go through https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5302116 , which was a discussion in which another person recommended a product. The upshot is that people see HN as a different type of forum compared to other places, and some people may actually read your original post as a personal testimonial (regardless of the disclosure, the phrase "This product is very, very effective" highly suggests you've used…

I understand your point and know that from your point of view it looks scammy. But its not. My interest here is to point out what I think is a good product to use. People are always asking me what tools should they use, and when the chance pops up to point to one I take it. My only interest is to help other business people discover good tools like this one.

I don't have any financial interest in the company. I actually turned down an offer to work with them due to closing another client. Such circumstances gave me the opportunity to talk with one of the founders (the OP). The impression that he left in me is that they are a good place to do business with. That impression also comes from me only hearing good things about them from their customers.

I am a member in a private group of startups founders where we discuss business development and help each other. I'd like for you to drop by our next meeting (online) so that you can get to know me. My hope is that you realize that my focus is to help others grow their businesses, and not scam people out of money. If you are interested, then send me an email. I will make sure to send you the invitation to the group.

Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#16

Post by orangethirty »

orangethirty wrote: post #14
niggler wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recommend you go through https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5302116 , which was a discussion in which another person recommended a product. The upshot is that people see HN as a different type of forum compared to other places, and some people may actually read your original post as a personal testimonial (regardless of the disclosure, the phrase "This product is very, very effective" highly suggests you've used…

I understand your point and know that from your point of view it looks scammy. But its not. My interest here is to point out what I think is a good product to use. People are always asking me what tools should they use, and when the chance pops up to point to one I take it. My only interest is to help other business people discover good tools like this one. I don't have any financial interest in the company. I actual…

Niggler, I want to publicly apologize for any misunderstanding. Please accept my most sincere apology.

Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#18

Post by nana_gb »

I've been testing out Perfect Audience for a month or two now, and have been really happy with the my results. I really like how easy it is to get started with a campaign, and Brad's always helpful.

My CPA (Cost Per Acquisition) was approximately $0.80 for the test campaign I ran. People noticed the ads, clicked and signed up for a webinar (name and email collected).

Due to the amount of traffic on my site, my retargeting list size is not that big. So, I don't get as many impressions/clicks as I'd like.

At this point, I'll take all the FBX traffic I can get.

This new reporting API is a welcome addition to PA, I'll be integrating it into our ad management software. But, what I'm really looking forward to seeing is the launch of an api for ad creation.

Re: Facebook Retargeter Perfect Audience (YC S11) Launches API For Agencies, Devs

#19

Post by brandnewlow »

nana_gb wrote: post #18

I've been testing out Perfect Audience for a month or two now, and have been really happy with the my results. I really like how easy it is to get started with a campaign, and Brad's always helpful. My CPA (Cost Per Acquisition) was approximately $0.80 for the test campaign I ran. People noticed the ads, clicked and signed up for a webinar (name and email collected). Due to the amount of traffic on my site, my retarg…

"People noticed the ads, clicked and signed up"

Music to our ears!

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