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Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

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Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The failure was not equally massive on all sides, though. Two guys made possibly juvenile jokes to each other while sitting in the audience at a conference. This was a minor failure of manners. A woman reacted by taking a creepshot of them, publicly shaming them on Twitter, and getting them kicked out of the room without even trying to simply talk to them. Even though she had also been making sexual jokes while at Py…

> A woman reacted by taking a creepshot of them A creepshot by definition is a sexualized photograph, this doesn't count. > publicly shaming them on Twitter Nothing wrong with this. > and getting them kicked out of the room without even trying to simply talk to them When a con attendee violates the rules and con staff wish to pull them aside, that is totally legit. And no, she was under no obligation to explain anyth…

>The OP did not fire this individual nor escort them out of the room. Having con staff pull the person aside is an expected outcome, but being fired is completely outside of the OP's control and is, frankly, a huge overreaction from a company that would rather throw people aside than actually engage in meaningful sensitivity training for its employees.

The OP of the tweet is responsible for her actions. She publically attempted to shame them, with full knowledge that individuals outside the conference would be able to view, and/or react to the individuals who were not speaking with her.

There was no threat to the individual's safety. It was a "threat" to what she wants to hear. Shes throwing a tantrum over a minor squable.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#102
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because you postulate unfounded facts. Nothing in the story indicates that the jokes where fired because she was in the earshot.

From TFA: >He said he would be interested in forking the repo and continuing development. That would have been fine until the guy next to him… began making sexual forking jokes The guy inserted his forking double innuendos in a conversation two other persons were having. Do you seriously think he'd do that if one of those weren't a female? (Also, forking jokes? Is that 1995 or what)

> Do you seriously think he'd do that if one of those weren't a female?

Jeez, me and my guy friends do this kind of thing all the time. In my circle at least (professionals in all walks of life, from software to academia to public policy), making double entendres is part of what it means to be a guy.

However, I do sensor myself around women.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#103
post #5

Google Cache as website is down http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://...

No worries, I added CloudFlare so the folks who were DDoS'ing my site will have to find a new hobby.

So why couldn't you turn around and shh them? Move away from the "offending conversation?"

To me this appears that you intentionally set out to get them kicked out of the conference. You: 1. Tweeted about it 2. Took your phone to take a picture of them [they are "in a public space" or in a private space that allows photography (I'm assuming) but it's still a bit creepy] 3. Tweeted the "offending" rule to the staff.

Don't take this as an attack against you [or even in this situation] However, how would you feel if you were asked to leave a conference from a non-PC comment in a semi-private conversation that you had with someone? How would you feel if that ended your revenue source and/or tarnished your professional reputation?

[My 2c, get off your high horse and be an adult for once: People are going to say things you don't like, get over it. About the photo pit, I find this action extremely uncomfortable.. The same "right" you exercised could be turned around for you.. Someone could start photographing you and make you feel uncomfortable. ]

EDIT: Empowerment has nothing to do about interacting with other individuals. Theres no such thing as a lack of "empowerment" that prevents women from handling the situation with a "ssh" or moving away from the conversation. Could you have even mentioned to the people directly that you're offended, granted you'd look silly as that this is a very minor situation.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#104
post #5

Google Cache as website is down http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://...

No worries, I added CloudFlare so the folks who were DDoS'ing my site will have to find a new hobby.

Why do you assume you were being DDoSed? It's normal to receive an incredibly distributed spike of traffic when an article is featured on reddit and hacker news.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#105
This is what's wrong with America today; no one can take a joke. Political correctness, while originated with valid aims, has gotten so out of control.

Was it a mistake to converse like that in mixed company? No doubt. Was an apology in order? Absolutely. Is a couple guys being immature going to make sure "she would never have the chance to learn and love programming because the ass clowns behind me would make it impossible for her to do so." No, grow up and quit being overdramatic.

I realize that it's not kosher to drop the "drama" bomb in talking about women, but rest assured I have and will continue to use the same language to describe men who are incredibly self-important and turn what should be moderately uncomfortable and inappropriate situations into World War 3.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#106
post #87

Petition to get Alex his job back: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/374/323/889/give-alex-reid-hi...

Actually, I'm not Alex. Alex was not involved in this incident. He still has a job, but I'm sure he appreciates the support.

If you live or are willing to relocate to SF, put your email in your profile. I bet a lot of people would interview you in a heartbeat.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#107
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I'm not Alex. Alex was not involved in this incident. He still has a job, but I'm sure he appreciates the support.

If you live or are willing to relocate to SF, put your email in your profile. I bet a lot of people would interview you in a heartbeat.

Agree. I would.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#108
From the "Attendee Procedure for Handling Harassment PyCon 2013" https://us.pycon.org/2013/about/code-of-conduct/harassment-i...

"Note: Public shaming can be counter-productive to building a strong community. PyCon does not condone nor participate in such actions out of respect."

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#109
post #37

My 2c: - The conference organizers set a very inclusive mandate that was, perhaps unwittingly, violated. - The blog post author was justified in using social media to alert the organizers that their mandate was being violated, but this probably could have been done privately with a similar effect. - It is extremely unfortunate that the violator's employers fired him. That is a big overreaction on the employer's part.…

> If this helps people think twice before speaking in a public place, that's a good thing. The community will become more inclusive as a result.

Are you (some non-offensive expletive) kidding me? This kind of overreaction will make the community more divisive. This is scorched earth -- it's not worth the risk socializing beyond your peers -- kind of action.

Re: Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences

#110
she could change seats. or turn around and speak to them and tell them she can overhear them and its not cool.

why turn it into some sort of vigilante prosecution of juvenile behaviour + public lynching? i'd like to imagine most people don't have the kind of moral/cutural baggage to want to do that to strangers they happen to overhear/pass by/randomly encounter..

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