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Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by danielweber »

truthtacular wrote: post #286
bobwaycott wrote: post #206

Seriously, Adria (and all of you who are defending her actions)--you got this one wrong; it was a false positive on your sexism scale. As a philosophical Marxist, I count myself among those who not only inherently support gender equality, but are from the thought tradition that started the damn movement. In graduate school, my thesis focused on the Southeast US from Reconstruction through the Civil Rights Act of 1964…

Hi. Savagedm came in here to sing your praises. I just wanted to let you know--before you graciously acknowledge his adulation--that he represents a large and fairly freaky population of misogynists on reddit who typically congregate in http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/ , and who have an especially sharp hatred for feminists of any stripe (be they ever so humble). The giveaway is > Women frequently engage in behavi…

God damn. Can you two keep your fight someplace else?

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by truthtacular »

astazangasta wrote: post #250
savagedm wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I am only a visitor from Reddit on this website and I will likely not post on here again, I felt compelled to make an account and reply to your post. You sir, win the internet award for 3-20-13 for your outstanding writing, cogent points, and social awareness. One does not often see this quality of writing and thoughts combined into a singular document on internet sites, and for making me think at the end "oh m…

As another visitor from Reddit, I apologize for this comment. While I agree with the original commenter that this case is overblown and shouldn't be called out as sexism, it flows from error and a reaction to a real problem. To suggest that we need a "men's rights movement" to counter this sort of error seems absurd. If this is the level of "hardship" that men are facing, they have little to complain about. Men shoul…

Mmm. Nothing gets the Men's Rights fanatics frothing like the suggestion that they aren't the most oppressed people of all time (OF. ALL. TIME.). So it might help ease their minds to acknowledge that there are a few significant scenarios in which there is actually gender bias that favors women. The worst one is probably child custody. Who says moms are automatically better single parents? I'd say the other bad one is the draft...we don't have one right now, and maybe now that women are allowed in combat, if we do have a draft again it won't only be men who are conscripted.

But yeah, aside from a few outlying examples, for the most part gender bias favors males, so the excessive whining of the Men's Rights movement is just a big steaming pile of Yeah...No.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by IheartApplesDix »

truthtacular wrote: post #286
bobwaycott wrote: post #206

Seriously, Adria (and all of you who are defending her actions)--you got this one wrong; it was a false positive on your sexism scale. As a philosophical Marxist, I count myself among those who not only inherently support gender equality, but are from the thought tradition that started the damn movement. In graduate school, my thesis focused on the Southeast US from Reconstruction through the Civil Rights Act of 1964…

Hi. Savagedm came in here to sing your praises. I just wanted to let you know--before you graciously acknowledge his adulation--that he represents a large and fairly freaky population of misogynists on reddit who typically congregate in http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/ , and who have an especially sharp hatred for feminists of any stripe (be they ever so humble). The giveaway is > Women frequently engage in behavi…

I have browsed the subreddit. It's quite apparent that it's easy to derail actual social progress on controversial issues by a few provocateurs. Yes, there is pendulum, and it does have a tendency to swing.

Your green name suggests that you're attempting to provoke a response, now you have one. Take your thinly veiled ad hominem attack back to reddit.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by oh_sigh »

CubemonkeyNYC wrote: post #246
oh_sigh wrote: post #233

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> One does not often see this quality of writing and thoughts combined into a singular document on internet sites Maybe because you're a visitor from reddit.

It appears that you do not detect the irony in your own comment.

It appears that your attempt to be clever failed. I never said that all comments on hacker news were high quality. I only implied that most comments on reddit are not high quality.

Please learn to think.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by theorique »

mkr-hn wrote: post #239
theorique wrote: post #213

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And her setting a chain of events in motion that got a professional fired for a harmless joke is permissible?

Who said it was permissible? I said it was an overreaction, just like the boss firing him for it.

OK, guess I misread your comment.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by cheez »

adriarichards wrote: post #27
mr-hank wrote: post #23

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes…

Hey, Thanks for speaking up, contributing your viewpoint on HN and not attacking me. I'm sorry to hear your employer deciding to not to work with you on this and I hope they reconsider, bring you back on and dealing with it constructively. For context, I'm a developer evangelist. That means I'm an advocate for developers, male and female. While I hear abou demanding bosses with impossible deadlines for product launch…

Your inability to take a joke is dangerous for the public image of whichever company you're evangelizing for.

And this after you make "sock down your pants" jokes on Twitter. The irony is delicious.

I hope the OP sues you for reproducing his likeness without his permission. PyCon is, after all, a private gathering.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by Anton338 »

oh_sigh wrote: post #294
CubemonkeyNYC wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears that you do not detect the irony in your own comment.

It appears that your attempt to be clever failed. I never said that all comments on hacker news were high quality. I only implied that most comments on reddit are not high quality. Please learn to think.

You are in no position to imply anything. Please refrain from posting your uneducated opinion regarding websites you don't frequent.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by selenamarie »

hilljgo wrote: post #289
selenamarie wrote: post #211

I hope people here realize how far some people will go when they feel they are given permission to harass others: https://twitter.com/jessenoller/status/314417532842950656 This is just awful. And the people who are taking part in the harassment are responsible, not anyone else.

may I ask what started all this?

Trolls are harassing Jesse Noller because of the role he played in responding to http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/pycon-response-to-inapprop...

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by hilljgo »

selenamarie wrote: post #298
hilljgo wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

may I ask what started all this?

Trolls are harassing Jesse Noller because of the role he played in responding to http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/pycon-response-to-inapprop...

ah, which was thishttp://term.ie/blog/how-to-get-banned-from-pycon/ right?
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