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Diamonds Are Bullshit

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Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

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| If the ring is more important to the | woman than I am, then she's not marrying | me, she's marrying the ring From some women's perspectives the diamond ring is 'proof' of your love.

A commitment to spend one's life with the other person isn't proof of love?

You're committed to spend your entire life together but aren't willing to drop a few grand today? Uh-huh.

(Just playing devil's advocate. With the argument I got.)

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

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Try sending her this article. I'd rather be single than marry someone who has so much more emotion than logic. To put it another way: If the ring is more important to the woman than I am, then she's not marrying me, she's marrying the ring. It's a huge red flag to me.

| If the ring is more important to the | woman than I am, then she's not marrying | me, she's marrying the ring From some women's perspectives the diamond ring is 'proof' of your love.

"If X is more important to you than her happiness..."

It's kind of a two-way street - which of you is more willing to make a sacrifice for this relationship? Perhaps a compromise can be reached...

-d, husband for 18.5yrs and counting

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try sending her this article. I'd rather be single than marry someone who has so much more emotion than logic. To put it another way: If the ring is more important to the woman than I am, then she's not marrying me, she's marrying the ring. It's a huge red flag to me.

| If the ring is more important to the | woman than I am, then she's not marrying | me, she's marrying the ring From some women's perspectives the diamond ring is 'proof' of your love.

Then she should do them both a favor and pronounce him not good enough for her, so they can both move on.

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

#85

What do people think about BlueNile? Diamond prices there are about 50% of retail -- perhaps a bit closer to the true "market" value?

I used Blue Nile to buy my wife's engagement ring and was very happy with the service/quality. The online customer care agents actively pushed me to buy the lowest quality diamond that would appear 'best', as there are many levels of quality that can only be seen under a loupe by a jeweler. All of these grades will appear to be equivalent to the untrained/unaided eye.

She needed to get the ring resized later and it was very easy. Returned via FedEx and had it back a week later.

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

#86

Maybe I'm spoiled as a nerdy (and interested in nerdy) gay guy, but I pity those in this thread saying that their fiancee wouldn't listen to reason about this. It slays me that "tradition" is so important to people that they will waste such vast amounts of money and prop up such a gross, violent industry in the face of reason.

My wife and I didn't have a lot of money. She wanted an engagement ring and I wanted to get her one, but we weren't especially phased by the diamond cartel. Instead we had a ring made from a large pincushion citrine and two medium-sized peridots. The ring is huge, brightly colored, totally unique and extremely eye-catching, and cost me about $600, which was almost all for the gold setting and the labor. She gets comp…

Same here, we went with blue sapphire in white gold. Very nice color combination.

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

#87

Please don't remind me about this. I'm pretty sure every guy knows all this already and unless you have a super hippy / progressive girlfriend (and even then..) you will ultimately find out that even the most rational women could give a crap about the economic / social realities of the diamond market and still " need " a diamond of X carat in order to impress their family and friends. DeBeer's wins. Either you get ov…

Why not eschew marriage altogether?

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

#88
post #72

Maybe I'm spoiled as a nerdy (and interested in nerdy) gay guy, but I pity those in this thread saying that their fiancee wouldn't listen to reason about this. It slays me that "tradition" is so important to people that they will waste such vast amounts of money and prop up such a gross, violent industry in the face of reason.

I pity those in this thread saying that their fiancee wouldn't listen to reason about this. Karma be damned but women as a whole are swayed more by marketing then men are. They've been sold the princess wedding, the diamond ring, the brand-name clothing, etc. It's difficult to break them of this so sometimes the fight isn't worth it. I didn't pay for my wedding so that was my in-laws problem although it wasn't grandi…

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Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

#89
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This article is interesting. I remember in Geology class when our teacher explained that you could make synthetic diamonds for a fraction of the price of a real diamond. He then asked all the women if they would rather have a natural diamond or a synthetic diamond, and almost all of them raised their hands. He then went on to explain that it was like the difference between natural ice and ice made in a freezer. He as…

But your geology teacher wasn't even correct. You can't make synthetic diamonds with similar color characteristics to natural diamonds at a fraction of the price. In fact, colorless synthetic diamonds are more expensive.

Re: Diamonds Are Bullshit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try sending her this article. I'd rather be single than marry someone who has so much more emotion than logic. To put it another way: If the ring is more important to the woman than I am, then she's not marrying me, she's marrying the ring. It's a huge red flag to me.

Word. For the record, not all women insist on a diamond, except reflexively... I actually know few couples that have bought diamond rings (for many reasons - some financial planning (a young couple should be worried about a house, insurance and retirement before a shiny ring) and some ethical (if you buy a new diamond, there is absolutely metaphorical blood on it - terrible juju to kick off a lifetime commitment of l…

I'm not aware of any law that requires her to give it back, no matter the day.
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