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Why I left Google (2012)

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Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And this guy has evil written all over him. Can you explain what about him makes him "evil"?

I think it's fairly clear that if you work for a large company like Google or Microsoft, you are quite literally the spawn of Satan.

^^ hahaha

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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This guy was only at Google for three years (less, in fact), but this reads like he was a 10 year veteran or something. I can't really take it all that seriously because of that.

He was offered a Partner position at Microsoft. That's why he left. No need to philosophize about corporate culture here.

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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post #45

"Sharing is not broken" "Share this on Facebook, Twitter, Digg, Delicious, Reddit, LinkedIn, SlashDot, Myspace, Technorati, Friendfeed, Messenger, or Stumbleupon."

Only two of those are relevant. With the right content, a third one may also work. The rest, you can ignore

I suppose we should be thankful that HN doesn't come with a share plugin.

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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Are Google's driverless car just a way to show more ads? Instead of driving a car you could be watching an ad.

I believe the overarching focus at Google is search. To search Google must index.

To continue indexing and searching Google has to make money. The most obvious path to billions is leveraging the indexing and searching into ad revenue.

What makes me more nervous than Google being capitalistic is Google not having boundaries about who/what/when/where/how they will index the whole world's data.

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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Between this piece and other comments I've seen in the wake of the anti-Google backlash of this past week, why is it that supposedly under Eric Schmidt, a "business guy" Google was all innovation and tech, and then when Larry Page, a very technical cofounder, took over, the company is now some sort of ad machine? If this is true, what does this say about leading personalities and company culture?

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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I think this person's opinion is rather colored. Google has been about ads since before they were public. I personally don't have a Facebook page, and don't use g+ that much, so I'm not as infatuated with social networking as much as some I suppose, but I keep track of my karma on HN hourly when I post a message here, so to each his own.

I have no idea what his second article about Microsoft and the mobile space is getting at. Look, if you think g+ is failing, what makes you think Microsoft is going to suddenly own the mobile space? I interviewed at a place in Seattle about 7 years ago that was doing Windows phone stuff, and again at MSFT at a different point for the windows mobile team as an embedded SWE. Microsoft has been in the mobile space forever, yet he's saying they are the innovative company capable to turning on a dime and taking over a new space? I don't believe it.

My wife has a windows phone, I don't like it, she hates the Bing search. I just bought a nexus 4 to replace my G2 because I want software updates for a long time. My wife is probably moving to an iPhone or Nexus. Last I looked gmail supports imap, you don't have to view ads. I only see ads on my nexus when I use google services, they don't flash up on my screen randomly.

I work on security for Windows, but for my own personal use, I just bought an ARM chromebook. It's a great price, despite the 'secure bootloader', it took me about 5 minutes to get the Ubuntu install started on an SD card, and if I screw up the recovery is drop dead simple. Right now, we are sweating bullets because if we make a mistake on Win8 boot, we are going to hose up the machine and recovery is long and painful.

Google has plenty of problems, and sure if you ask me, Google+ has a terrible interface and shipping it without a good API was brain dead, but Microsoft sure doesn't seem to be setting the mobile world on fire.

So I'd take this and many articles like it with a giant cake of salt.

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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I don't know. Google has come up with Glass and is working hard on the self driving car. Sounds pretty innovative still to me. I hope the author is wrong about the pipeline of new stuff.

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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I lost all interest in reading the article after looking at the msdn.com domain. EDIT: Downvoters, I don't see how this is wrong. Microsoft has a long history of spreading FUD about competitors (Florian Mueller/FOSSPatents, http://www.scroogled.com/ [when their own practices are very much the same], sponsoring fake studies that show that the TCO of Linux is much greater than that of Windows, and so on.) I certainly w…

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Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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post #72

This guy was only at Google for three years (less, in fact), but this reads like he was a 10 year veteran or something. I can't really take it all that seriously because of that. He was offered a Partner position at Microsoft. That's why he left. No need to philosophize about corporate culture here.

The funny thing is, before he was at Google, he was at Microsoft... and here's what he had to say to CNN/Fortune (http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/29/the-problem-with-micr...) in 2011 about Microsoft:

"You want to innovate in mobile? ...deal with the made men who run the relevant cartel. And if they don't like you or your idea, your innovation goes nowhere."

Re: Why I left Google (2012)

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post #60

I lost all interest in reading the article after looking at the msdn.com domain. EDIT: Downvoters, I don't see how this is wrong. Microsoft has a long history of spreading FUD about competitors (Florian Mueller/FOSSPatents, http://www.scroogled.com/ [when their own practices are very much the same], sponsoring fake studies that show that the TCO of Linux is much greater than that of Windows, and so on.) I certainly w…

The article is all about the difference between the innovation being created by low level employees and the stupid decisions by top level management who want to shut it all down. The author is among the former and even says he doesn't like ads , so I think your proposition that he is a Microsoft shill working in an elaborate anti-Google marketing campaign is misguided. There's not much excuse for not reading things a…

James Whittaker was not a "low level employee," he was a director of engineering. This is the same level as Kurzweil. At that level he was responsible for many management decisions, some of them probably "stupid."
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