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An apology to open source

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Re: An apology to open source

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Post by arethuza »

analog wrote: post #76
shadowmint wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true if and only if he didn't continue to refine and contribute to the code after entering employment, and specifically , didn't use it at his place of employment. Many places have terrible and unhealthy, but legally binding contracts regarding work done in your own time while employed. :( Without more information we can't know, but its far from given that their position is legally ambiguous.

Agreed, but he's based in the UK, so the 'we own all your IP' thing doesn't apply here. On company time yes, in your own time I believe not. Your own time would not be "in the course of his or her employment." http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-ownership/c-employer.htm

I've seen employment contracts in the UK that try the "own time" thing - these are probably not enforceable, but you probably wouldn't want to go through the process of putting that to the test.

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by daemon13 »

danielsamuels wrote: post #40
arcosdev wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

forked and cloned

I just added the original documentation to the master repo, you may want to grab that too.

many thanks...

the fork docs point to the original site, which was taken down :-(

Edit: docs are in index.html, but w/o css

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by highpixels »

anoncoward0 wrote: post #55

Looks like this is his employer: http://www.radweb.co.uk Source: https://twitter.com/_nnnick/status/98344434948771840

I work for Radweb, Nick no longer works with us. He left around a year ago or so.

I've made a few open-source contributions through the company (https://github.com/danharper and https://github.com/radweb).

Chart.js looked like an awesome library, it's a shame what happened.

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by AnthonBerg »

Systemic33 wrote: post #87
ayanb wrote: post #29

An open note to Nick's Employers - 1) If you are a technology company, this is Harakiri ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku ). You are alienating every developer who is worth her salt. If you have a recruiting arm, and they are trying to recruit, god be with them. Ofcourse, you think people will never come to know, but this has the potential to be a good story and press will pick it up. I will not be surprised if…

Someone found the company further down; linking to comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5400190 EDIT: Many people have pointed that its not the correct company. EDIT2: http://www.expert-24.com/ seems to be the correct company, and seems more plausible to have IP problem with chart.js (don't got lynch them, seriously!)

Doewn't work there anymore it seems, as in that's not the company in question (see linked-to cmt)

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by ANH »

Systemic33 wrote: post #87
ayanb wrote: post #29

An open note to Nick's Employers - 1) If you are a technology company, this is Harakiri ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku ). You are alienating every developer who is worth her salt. If you have a recruiting arm, and they are trying to recruit, god be with them. Ofcourse, you think people will never come to know, but this has the potential to be a good story and press will pick it up. I will not be surprised if…

Someone found the company further down; linking to comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5400190 EDIT: Many people have pointed that its not the correct company. EDIT2: http://www.expert-24.com/ seems to be the correct company, and seems more plausible to have IP problem with chart.js (don't got lynch them, seriously!)

Radweb is not the employer in question, according to his Twitter feed. He no longer works there.

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by readme »

stdbrouw wrote: post #94
readme wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh man, that is some serious proliterian rage. I have to wonder: why is it that someone thinks they can retroactively demand overtime pay for work that wasn't agreed in advance? As a contractor, I really don't understand this attitude.

If they want it, they pay. If they don't want it, don't pay, but don't get it either. Isn't that how you work as a contractor too? And doesn't that apply regardless of whether the work was agreed on in advance?

The suggestion in the post I was replying to was to involve osha and demand overtime pay for work previously done in spare time.

So no. The agreements the OP had with his company are irrelevant to his work hours. If OP did open source work on his free time, then later is asked by his company to take down said work, and complies, he is not entitled to any compensation, other than what his employer voluntarily offers him.

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by rmc »

MrScruff wrote: post #43
ayanb wrote: post #29

An open note to Nick's Employers - 1) If you are a technology company, this is Harakiri ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku ). You are alienating every developer who is worth her salt. If you have a recruiting arm, and they are trying to recruit, god be with them. Ofcourse, you think people will never come to know, but this has the potential to be a good story and press will pick it up. I will not be surprised if…

From the OP 'Sadly though, due to concerns from my employer regarding intellectual property and similarities in projects I've worked on, I've been asked to take down the site.' We have no way of assessing the validity of these concerns from what has been said. If the company feels the open source project contains work they have funded, and don't want to release, then it is their right to ask him to withdraw it. Also,…

People aren't arguing that it's illegal or incorrect for them to take it down, or that they don't have the authority here. They are arguing that it's a stupid move.

Re: An apology to open source

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Post by ed209 »

ANH wrote: post #107
Systemic33 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone found the company further down; linking to comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5400190 EDIT: Many people have pointed that its not the correct company. EDIT2: http://www.expert-24.com/ seems to be the correct company, and seems more plausible to have IP problem with chart.js (don't got lynch them, seriously!)

Radweb is not the employer in question, according to his Twitter feed. He no longer works there.

tweet in question https://twitter.com/_nnnick/status/313983245987479552
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