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Two Months of Soylent

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Re: Two Months of Soylent

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Since it's relatively easy to eat 4000 kcal a day without trying (in fact, just by not trying to not do so), I can only imagine how much you must be eating. 6000 kcal? 8000?

It's relatively easy to eat 4000 without trying? How many meals do you consume a day and what do they consist of? When I did weight resistance training in tandem with intense cardio training five days a week it was still difficult to reach my needed caloric content (which hovered more or less around 4000). I mean, I'm not saying you're lying, but how is it easy for you?

As a fatass rather than an athlete, trust me, it's just a matter of training. A pint of Ben and Jerry's is over 1200. A large milkshake approaches 1000. A liter of Coke is 4 calories and two of those per day is doable. Now you're at 4000 calories without even a bite of real food!

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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Why not just drink diet coke?

You seriously suggested diet coke to someone wanting a non-sugary alternative to coke? Ok, so that's unnecessarily snarky, but diet coke is pretty much the farthest away from the non-diet colas you can get with the diet variations. These days at least I believe it's that way on purpose, as it's created a distinct market for itself. Coke Zero is a lot closer, but Diet Pepsi and Pepsi Max are both vastly better approxi…

Fun fact: Coke tried adapting the Diet Coke recipe to use real Coke. The result? 1985's ill-fated New Coke.

Diet Coke and Coke Zero are only two of their diet colas. The original was TaB, which is still sold today.

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing as I was making the recipe. That brings up an interesting question: Is it fine to get 200% of your daily requirement for Vitamin A on one day and 0% the second day and let things average out, or will you be healthier if you get a steady stream of your daily requirements throughout the day? Maybe there are some nutrients that are easily stored in the body (like fat-soluble vitamins…

I'm not a biologist but many vitamins are water soluble. They may stay in your body long enough but chances are you'll urinate most of the unnecessary vitamins out.

vitamin A is not water soluble. a significant excess of vitamin A is not fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_a#Toxicity

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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This guy is effectively popularising something that has existed for ages in the medical/weight loss industries: namely medical food/meal replacement drinks. The difference is that he is using them daily, without paying the premium for an off the shelf, tested, and regulated version by doing it himself. My question for those more experienced in this area is: What well tested, off the shelf, medically regulated product…

This all kind of sounds like the Jevity that they gave my dad in ICU. Apparently you can stay on it for quite some time. http://abbottnutrition.com/Products/jevity-1_2-cal

Or Scandishake which appears to be a popular brand in the UK. I always remember trying to get my grandfarther to drink some when he was in the hospice, I used to bribe him by talking about an analogue circuit from the Art of Electronics, as he was mostly still in the mind of valves, but only if he finished the drink. :(

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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Easy version (not nutritionally complete but a decent meal replacement) if anyone is interested, comments welcome. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjA38cUd4BZBdG5... I always add whey to this for additional protein, which I didn't list because composition varies and it is micronutrient poor anyway.

Is he using whey right now? I think it'd be insanely cheap online.

2-3cents/gram of protein is usual if you shop by price. The whole shake comes in around $2 with a scoop (25g protein) of whey.

Been getting ~50% of calories from this for the last year. Blood panel so far looks very very good, but I'm due for another one.

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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You may have found this but http://www.zevia.com/ for Stevia based Soda options.

Yeah, found it. Sadly I'm in Germany :/ Will probably get one of my friends to bring me some when they visit home the next time.

http://www.fritz-kola.de/fritz-kola-und-limo/fritz-kola-stev...

and it tastes good! in fact i like all their products :)

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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post #138

This guy is effectively popularising something that has existed for ages in the medical/weight loss industries: namely medical food/meal replacement drinks. The difference is that he is using them daily, without paying the premium for an off the shelf, tested, and regulated version by doing it himself. My question for those more experienced in this area is: What well tested, off the shelf, medically regulated product…

This all kind of sounds like the Jevity that they gave my dad in ICU. Apparently you can stay on it for quite some time. http://abbottnutrition.com/Products/jevity-1_2-cal

My grandmother spent the last 1.5 years of her life on some high-calorie nutrient powder/drink. Even put on a bit of weight for a while.

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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Parent said "modern", not "paleolithic". You are not a paleolithic human, and if you are, welcome, time traveller.

Modern humanity evolved to eat tubers in the last few centuries?

Yes. We evolved to cope better with bubonic plague in a matter of decades. It all depends on the amount of evolutionary pressure.

Re: Two Months of Soylent

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This guy is effectively popularising something that has existed for ages in the medical/weight loss industries: namely medical food/meal replacement drinks. The difference is that he is using them daily, without paying the premium for an off the shelf, tested, and regulated version by doing it himself. My question for those more experienced in this area is: What well tested, off the shelf, medically regulated product…

I've done 3-5 month stretches (multiple times) using Sustagen (the Hospital Formula[1] one from chemists, not the supermarket variety).

It was during cancer surgeries and therapies, and recommended to me by the hospital + various specialist doctors, so that's the only vote of confidence I needed that it was OK.

I had no side effects while on it, didn't lose or gain weight, and actually quite enjoyed not having to worry about shopping, cooking, washing up, etc. I also slept better, and all-round "felt" better.

I've considered trying it longer term voluntarily, maybe try 6 months or so, and get the full gamut of medical tests done before and after, to see what they say.

[1] http://www.sustagen.com.au/products/sustagen-hospital-formul...

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