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Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by limmeau »

old-gregg wrote: post #63
yolesaber wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked into System76's machines at all? Right now I am using their Gazelle Professional model ( https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/gazp8 ). I have to say it is the best damn laptop I've ever owned and this is coming from a long-time Thinkpad user

I look at them every time I'm shopping for a laptop. They never offer anything comparable to a proper Thinkpad. The laptop you're linking to lacks nearly everything imporant: * No trackpoint * Touchpad buttons are in the wrong place (must be on top, under thumbs) * No IPS display * Keyboard is crippled. Compare to a proper keyboard [1] The #1 and #2 basicaly mean "this laptop has no mouse" Apple-style touchpad is use…

I always hated the forward-backward buttons. In Eclipse and VS, I kept hitting them when reaching for Shift or Cursor, and ended up in a different file.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by krsunny »

ericabiz wrote: post #54
jim_h wrote: post #28

I think the high point of the Thinkpad line was around the T61/X61t. They were fast, durable and had nice high resolution display. I was desperately waiting for an update to my X61t w/ 1400x1050 display and no such option come from them and after many years, still none! Such a disappointment. I saw the photos in the article and then noticed they removed the trackpad buttons. They're moving away from why I liked them…

The Thinkpad X1 Carbon is 1600x900. Surprised that is not that well-known, as you're the second person on this thread I've noticed with that misconception. I upgraded from my old X200s to the X1 Carbon and it's great.

I've been wanting this model for months. How is the video performance on it? Movies, games etc?

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by benmccann »

Stratoscope wrote: post #42
kunai wrote: post #40

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Does anyone want to apply to YC with a novel idea: make computers for people who make money using computers? I actually thought about this. A nice, rugged computer with a good keyboard, sturdy construction, great pointing stick hardware and 16:10 display. All of which ThinkPad just isn't right now. Unfortunately, my financial options and also my experience is very limited in this regard. If anyone proposes a project…

Unfortunately, the "great pointing stick hardware" will likely run into some IBM patents. None of the other machines with pointing sticks have ever been able to get the same natural response as a TrackPoint, I believe partly because of these patents. What a deal: Lenovo doesn't want to make professional machines any more, but they won't likely let anyone else use the TrackPoint patents.

Those patents are expiring soon.

http://www.google.com/patents/US5521596 - Analog input device located in the primary typing area of a keyboard - Expires May 28, 2013 http://www.google.com/patents/US5489900 - Force sensitive transducer for use in a computer keyboard - Expires Jun 3, 2014

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by hjalle »

ninjin wrote: post #56
old-gregg wrote: post #21

I have two nearly new Thinkpads right now and I don't need a 3rd laptop. But with this shit hitting the market soon, I am contemplating ordering a T530 and perhaps an x230 in top configurations and keep them in a closet for future use. After this pinnacle of Lenovo engineering goes on sale there won't be a single laptop on the market worth using. Not sure what I think of Apple right now. On one hand, they catapulted…

> I am rooting for Dell here. Now when Lenovo is gone, their Precision series is probably the closest one to take advantage of this. I would hope for the same, the only problem is that there has been some worrying tendencies in the Dell camp as well. Look at the old Latitude series which was geared towards business [1]. It was solid, good keyboard, not a bundle of plastic etc. The design was new back in 2008 and now…

What about the Dell latitude 6430u[1]? I've not seen it yet but if someone have any comments on it I'd be happy to hear! Seems like it's at least possible to get it with 1600x900.

[1] http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-6430u-ultrabook/f...

Edit: Seems like the 1600x900 resolution is only avaialable in US, or at least not in Sweden.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by kybernetikos »

hjalle wrote: post #74
ninjin wrote: post #56

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> I am rooting for Dell here. Now when Lenovo is gone, their Precision series is probably the closest one to take advantage of this. I would hope for the same, the only problem is that there has been some worrying tendencies in the Dell camp as well. Look at the old Latitude series which was geared towards business [1]. It was solid, good keyboard, not a bundle of plastic etc. The design was new back in 2008 and now…

What about the Dell latitude 6430u[1]? I've not seen it yet but if someone have any comments on it I'd be happy to hear! Seems like it's at least possible to get it with 1600x900. [1] http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-6430u-ultrabook/f... Edit: Seems like the 1600x900 resolution is only avaialable in US, or at least not in Sweden.

1600 x 900, one of the most irritating resolutions ever. Ten years ago, my T42p had 1600 x 1200. It's as if they removed a quarter of my screen and recentered it. What progress!

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by gokhan »

javert wrote: post #44
johnbender wrote: post #29

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I believe the trackpoint buttons are still there at the top of the trackpad. At least that was my reading of the post: "We unified the clickpad by integrating the trackpoint buttons into the elegant glass touchpad..." I sincerely hope they never discard the trackpoint, no matter how many times The Verge laments it's "confusing" presence.

We unified the clickpad by integrating the trackpoint buttons into the elegant glass touchpad, making it appear even larger and more streamline. The trackpad now has five buttons which you can customize for Windows 8 gestures via the device driver. Hardcore long-time ThinkPad fan. This breaks the way the computer is used. I don't even know what I'll do. The only other quality hardware maker I know is Apple.

Here's a comic for people on this thread:

http://xkcd.com/1172/

Lenovo, or any other manufacturer, will not keep producing gadgets for your exact same specification for the rest of your professional life. Actually, what they come up with in the first place was not designed by your specs, you got used to the gadget in time. Now it seems it's time to start using another one, getting familiar with it, and having some uncomfortable one or two weeks.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by hjalle »

kybernetikos wrote: post #75
hjalle wrote: post #74

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What about the Dell latitude 6430u[1]? I've not seen it yet but if someone have any comments on it I'd be happy to hear! Seems like it's at least possible to get it with 1600x900. [1] http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-6430u-ultrabook/f... Edit: Seems like the 1600x900 resolution is only avaialable in US, or at least not in Sweden.

1600 x 900, one of the most irritating resolutions ever. Ten years ago, my T42p had 1600 x 1200. It's as if they removed a quarter of my screen and recentered it. What progress!

I completely agree. Why does it seem nearly impossible to put in a high resolution screen? When you config the Precision line, it costs $34 to upgrade from 1366x768 to a 1920x1080 screen. That's basically nothing, so it doesn't seem too expensive to achieve higher resolutions? It's also strange to me that the 16:9 ratio is so dominant when it is clear that there is a market for other ratios as well.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by r00fus »

mikeandtalisha wrote: post #15

I can't believe they call out rotating the logo as a new feature.

It's like they're saying "We're almost as good as Apple". Aside from the 180deg. hinge, is there any innovation that they've listed that's not an innovation previously done by other vendors (like Apple)?

Seriously? Why parrot that you're behind the times?

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by kybernetikos »

ericabiz wrote: post #53
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #17

And yet the 13" screen on the 11" body (tiny bezel) Dell XPS still has a high er -res screen than this 14" screen. WAKE UP LENOVO, I really wanted to have a hard decision when choosing to replace my Macbook Air, but I guess the XPS 13 is an easy choice. Your X1 Carbon is equally gorgeous with an equally crappy screen. Now if only any store anywhere carried the Chromebook Pixel so I could check it out... edit: After m…

"Your X1 Carbon is equally gorgeous with an equally crappy screen." I believe you have incorrect information. I own a Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Its screen resolution is 1600x900, which is not only higher than the typical 1366x768 resolution found on most laptops, but it's a nice resolution that doesn't require switching into and out of "retina" mode. I'm quite happy with my X1 Carbon, FWIW. My favorite feature is the rapid…

> Its screen resolution is 1600x900, which is not only higher than the typical 1366x768 resolution found on most laptops, but it's a nice resolution...

I'm a bit surprised to read this sentiment on this thread. As I keep saying - ten years ago I had a t42p with 1600 x 1200. For software development, vertical resolution is extremely important, and 900 is the bare minimum in my opinion. It's certainly not good.

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