So Lynn root says holy effing crap in the tweet.
I am so offended. Why do women say things like this. I am so hurt. I wish someone showed her the code of conduct. Women talking about fucking is just not nice.
Forking and Dongle Jokes Don't Belong At Tech Conferences
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#12So Lynn root says holy effing crap in the tweet. I am so offended. Why do women say things like this. I am so hurt. I wish someone showed her the code of conduct. Women talking about fucking is just not nice.
Not just fucking, but holy fucking. One cannot help but be assaulted by the image of their most beloved deity or earthly representative engaged in all manner of despicable behaviour. With human waste playing some sort of horrific part in the act. Highly offensive. Nightmare enducing, even.
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#13I guess the big factor here would be if they were purposely saying those comments in order to be assholes. Friends do make silly jokes with each other, right? Surely the person could have just said something like "Guys, not funny, because..." instead of making it a huge public shaming in the Internet Court of Law.
Behaving reasonably and like an adult would not make good material for a blog post though.
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#14The "jokes" (which are lame) weren't directed at her from what I can gather. The OP publicly lynched them, and one guy was fired for it.
What a crap situation all over :( I dont understand the offensiveness of what they said, directed at themselves, just being idiots. Christ, that could happen to me.
Is fear of reprisal better than actual understanding?
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#15there is no excuse for saying stuff like that at a conference its just not appropriate.
but posting their picture on the internet ... there is not any excuse for that either. its just plain wrong.
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#16I am missing something here. I get that someone could be offended by these comments, but what does it have to do with being a woman? I know females who would giggle at such jokes and males who would feel uncomfortable. I feel like the person here being the most sexist is the author, for insinuating that there's something inherent in her gender that makes "forking" jokes offensive to her. I would welcome an explanatio…
I don't know, it might be an American cultural convention though. Where I work I have a lot of Northern European and Asian colleages and the women here are by far worse than the men with forwarding explicit chain emails and questionable double entendres. Totally anecdotal, but it seems to me that soccer-mom characters are especially active in this area.
Never mind who is doing it, I find it increddibly annoying, but it's not harassment by any meaningful definition of the word.
My theory as to why it transcends annoyance and actually becomes a women's issue in America is probably because women there are expected to be asexual. So in that case it's only the men amongst themselves making these adolescent-type comments, and that in turn would make women uncomfortable because all of a sudden they have to deal with nasty group dynamics.
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#17The "jokes" (which are lame) weren't directed at her from what I can gather. The OP publicly lynched them, and one guy was fired for it. What a crap situation all over :( I dont understand the offensiveness of what they said, directed at themselves, just being idiots. Christ, that could happen to me. Is fear of reprisal better than actual understanding?
Actually it seems the jokes were fired solely because she was in the earshot.
EDIT: downvoting, seriously?
I just go by her account in the linked article, which I hope everyone commenting took their time to read as well. Her argument is clear and isn't anywhere as unfounded as skimming through the comments here would make you think. She of course could be making things up, which neither me, nor anything else who weren't there are able to verify.
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#18Steer clear of humor at professional events like this, even if talking with a friend. It's too easy to step over someone's line and come under surveillance. If you wouldn't say it in a courtroom..
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#19"What many of you don’t know is that wasn’t the first time that day I had to address this issue around harassment and gender." A few guys making idiotic jokes amongst themselves about forking and dongle size is now considered harassment? I can understand they were probably being annoying, but I'm having trouble seeing this as harassment.
Amongst themselves? They were in public!
And one of them was a sponsor of the event, none the less!
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#20The "jokes" (which are lame) weren't directed at her from what I can gather. The OP publicly lynched them, and one guy was fired for it. What a crap situation all over :( I dont understand the offensiveness of what they said, directed at themselves, just being idiots. Christ, that could happen to me. Is fear of reprisal better than actual understanding?
Actually it seems the jokes were fired solely because she was in the earshot. EDIT: downvoting, seriously? I just go by her account in the linked article, which I hope everyone commenting took their time to read as well. Her argument is clear and isn't anywhere as unfounded as skimming through the comments here would make you think. She of course could be making things up, which neither me, nor anything else who were…
That's possible, but not clear to me from Richards' account.