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Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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I've been a loyal Thinkpad user for more than a decade. There are three things that have kept me buying new thinkpads: The keyboard, the trackpoint, and the high degree of serviceability. I recently got a T-530 and was extremely disappointed with the changes made to the keyboard. The chiclet change was lame, but it was something I could ignore. The changes to the layout are a complete disaster. Important keys are gon…

At least it still has a matte screen.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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this is very, very nice, but centering the trackpad to have to align with the trackpoint feels like an awkward mistake

What makes it an awkward mistake? Doesn't look as balanced and centered?

It seems kind of essential if they're using the touchpad top edge as a replacement for the TrackPoint buttons.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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And yet the 13" screen on the 11" body (tiny bezel) Dell XPS still has a high er -res screen than this 14" screen. WAKE UP LENOVO, I really wanted to have a hard decision when choosing to replace my Macbook Air, but I guess the XPS 13 is an easy choice. Your X1 Carbon is equally gorgeous with an equally crappy screen. Now if only any store anywhere carried the Chromebook Pixel so I could check it out... edit: After m…

"Your X1 Carbon is equally gorgeous with an equally crappy screen."

I believe you have incorrect information. I own a Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Its screen resolution is 1600x900, which is not only higher than the typical 1366x768 resolution found on most laptops, but it's a nice resolution that doesn't require switching into and out of "retina" mode.

I'm quite happy with my X1 Carbon, FWIW. My favorite feature is the rapid charge, which charges your laptop to 80% battery in 30 minutes or less. This is a laptop where it's actually worth hauling out the AC adapter when you have 10 minutes before you board your next flight. Very awesome feature.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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post #28

I think the high point of the Thinkpad line was around the T61/X61t. They were fast, durable and had nice high resolution display. I was desperately waiting for an update to my X61t w/ 1400x1050 display and no such option come from them and after many years, still none! Such a disappointment. I saw the photos in the article and then noticed they removed the trackpad buttons. They're moving away from why I liked them…

The Thinkpad X1 Carbon is 1600x900. Surprised that is not that well-known, as you're the second person on this thread I've noticed with that misconception. I upgraded from my old X200s to the X1 Carbon and it's great.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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I have two nearly new Thinkpads right now and I don't need a 3rd laptop. But with this shit hitting the market soon, I am contemplating ordering a T530 and perhaps an x230 in top configurations and keep them in a closet for future use. After this pinnacle of Lenovo engineering goes on sale there won't be a single laptop on the market worth using. Not sure what I think of Apple right now. On one hand, they catapulted…

Have you looked into System76's machines at all? Right now I am using their Gazelle Professional model (https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/gazp8). I have to say it is the best damn laptop I've ever owned and this is coming from a long-time Thinkpad user

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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I have two nearly new Thinkpads right now and I don't need a 3rd laptop. But with this shit hitting the market soon, I am contemplating ordering a T530 and perhaps an x230 in top configurations and keep them in a closet for future use. After this pinnacle of Lenovo engineering goes on sale there won't be a single laptop on the market worth using. Not sure what I think of Apple right now. On one hand, they catapulted…

> I am rooting for Dell here. Now when Lenovo is gone, their Precision series is probably the closest one to take advantage of this.

I would hope for the same, the only problem is that there has been some worrying tendencies in the Dell camp as well.

Look at the old Latitude series which was geared towards business [1]. It was solid, good keyboard, not a bundle of plastic etc. The design was new back in 2008 and now look what they turned it into [2]. It looks like a horrible mix between their all too plastic XPS series and the old Latitude. Also, doesn't it also look fat with those stupid rounded edges?

Honestly, the best laptop I know of out there is the Dell Latitude 2XXX series [3]. That although ridden with plastic, a not so good keyboard and a slow CPU, it is built like a brick (like IBM/Lenovo used to make them). I am quite confident I could render someone unconscious with it and still be able to continue working using it afterwards.

I need to upgrade my old Latitude within this year and I am desperate to find a good candidate, having considered the T420 I now dread the T421. Suggestions are most welcome.

[1]: http://www.pclaunches.com/entry_images/0308/22/dell_latitude...

[2]: http://www.digitalcityegypt.com/Files/images/634910290525410...

[3]: https://imageshack.us/a/img216/3950/dell2100009.jpg

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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And yet the 13" screen on the 11" body (tiny bezel) Dell XPS still has a high er -res screen than this 14" screen. WAKE UP LENOVO, I really wanted to have a hard decision when choosing to replace my Macbook Air, but I guess the XPS 13 is an easy choice. Your X1 Carbon is equally gorgeous with an equally crappy screen. Now if only any store anywhere carried the Chromebook Pixel so I could check it out... edit: After m…

"Your X1 Carbon is equally gorgeous with an equally crappy screen." I believe you have incorrect information. I own a Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Its screen resolution is 1600x900, which is not only higher than the typical 1366x768 resolution found on most laptops, but it's a nice resolution that doesn't require switching into and out of "retina" mode. I'm quite happy with my X1 Carbon, FWIW. My favorite feature is the rapid…

>It's a nice resolution that doesn't require switching into and out of "retina" mode.

I use an OS that fortunately isn't encumbered with those problems. I use a 2560x1440 monitor, a 2560x1440 tablet, and a 720p phone, the fact that a 14" screen is inferior to all of those is embarrassing. It does make a difference, especially when I'm considering switching from my MBA (which already has a higher density than the X1 in question) to an XPS 13 that has a full HD (1080p) display.

I can assure you, I would love more than anything else to buy the Touchpad X1. I don't like Dell's quality or customer service. The EFI implementation on Macs is piss-poor and their firmware doesn't support USB3 (you have to boot OS X/Ubuntu and have the drivers kick in). My first "real" laptop was a Thinkpad before they stopped making Thinkpads. But frankly, the screen is a deal break. The screen on my T61P was the worst screen I've ever owned, and I'm not buying another until it's competitive with the equivalent competition.

I'm sadly well aware that many other laptop manufacturers skimp on displays, but both Acer and ASUS offer full HD laptops that are in the same spec/dimension/price range.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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post #18

I've been a loyal Thinkpad user for more than a decade. There are three things that have kept me buying new thinkpads: The keyboard, the trackpoint, and the high degree of serviceability. I recently got a T-530 and was extremely disappointed with the changes made to the keyboard. The chiclet change was lame, but it was something I could ignore. The changes to the layout are a complete disaster. Important keys are gon…

I've had the T20, the T30, the T41, the T60p, and the X200. The build quality has just been going down. I have a T60 with a busted fan with no screen, think anti-tablet, as a server right now. The X200 had to be sent in for repairs a few times, luckily under warranty, while the T41 keeps going (others have been retired). And before the service was incredible, now it just seems to take longer and longer (well, as of 2 years ago as far as I know).

In 2011, I was shopping for a new laptop and wanted to get something with an SSD, but the X-series was more expensive than an MBA. After a tirade about Apple, I finally gave in despite reservations about no trackpoint and durability. I just don't treat my hardware very well. Regarding durability, I've had this thing protect me while I got clipped by a truck, dropped it off a motorcycle, and had it fall several times. A few dents, but it keeps on going. And the trackpoint, well, I've just learned to live without. C'est la vie. The keyboard works, gotten used to it.

I'm still waiting for something better than the MBA that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Carbon for $1200 + the honor of having to recompile kernels to get less battery life than other OS's just doesn't cut it anymore. This new one ain't it either.

Loyalty is misguided nowadays. They don't build them like they used to.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone want to apply to YC with a novel idea: make computers for people who make money using computers? I actually thought about this. A nice, rugged computer with a good keyboard, sturdy construction, great pointing stick hardware and 16:10 display. All of which ThinkPad just isn't right now. Unfortunately, my financial options and also my experience is very limited in this regard. If anyone proposes a project…

Unfortunately, the "great pointing stick hardware" will likely run into some IBM patents. None of the other machines with pointing sticks have ever been able to get the same natural response as a TrackPoint, I believe partly because of these patents. What a deal: Lenovo doesn't want to make professional machines any more, but they won't likely let anyone else use the TrackPoint patents.

Tadpole used the same IBM device without the IBM controller (and its patent licenses). 5 man months of an excellent sw dev on an h8 uC.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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I have two nearly new Thinkpads right now and I don't need a 3rd laptop. But with this shit hitting the market soon, I am contemplating ordering a T530 and perhaps an x230 in top configurations and keep them in a closet for future use. After this pinnacle of Lenovo engineering goes on sale there won't be a single laptop on the market worth using. Not sure what I think of Apple right now. On one hand, they catapulted…

Have you looked into System76's machines at all? Right now I am using their Gazelle Professional model ( https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/gazp8 ). I have to say it is the best damn laptop I've ever owned and this is coming from a long-time Thinkpad user

Aren't System76's laptops all just re-branded Clevo machines?
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