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Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by kunai »

old-gregg wrote: post #21

I have two nearly new Thinkpads right now and I don't need a 3rd laptop. But with this shit hitting the market soon, I am contemplating ordering a T530 and perhaps an x230 in top configurations and keep them in a closet for future use. After this pinnacle of Lenovo engineering goes on sale there won't be a single laptop on the market worth using. Not sure what I think of Apple right now. On one hand, they catapulted…

> I am rooting for Dell here. Now when Lenovo is gone, their Precision series is probably the closest one to take advantage of this.

I love the Precision line. If only they made a 14" laptop... I would never buy ThinkPads again.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by Stratoscope »

kunai wrote: post #40
old-gregg wrote: post #21

I have two nearly new Thinkpads right now and I don't need a 3rd laptop. But with this shit hitting the market soon, I am contemplating ordering a T530 and perhaps an x230 in top configurations and keep them in a closet for future use. After this pinnacle of Lenovo engineering goes on sale there won't be a single laptop on the market worth using. Not sure what I think of Apple right now. On one hand, they catapulted…

Does anyone want to apply to YC with a novel idea: make computers for people who make money using computers? I actually thought about this. A nice, rugged computer with a good keyboard, sturdy construction, great pointing stick hardware and 16:10 display. All of which ThinkPad just isn't right now. Unfortunately, my financial options and also my experience is very limited in this regard. If anyone proposes a project…

Unfortunately, the "great pointing stick hardware" will likely run into some IBM patents. None of the other machines with pointing sticks have ever been able to get the same natural response as a TrackPoint, I believe partly because of these patents.

What a deal: Lenovo doesn't want to make professional machines any more, but they won't likely let anyone else use the TrackPoint patents.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by kunai »

Stratoscope wrote: post #42
kunai wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone want to apply to YC with a novel idea: make computers for people who make money using computers? I actually thought about this. A nice, rugged computer with a good keyboard, sturdy construction, great pointing stick hardware and 16:10 display. All of which ThinkPad just isn't right now. Unfortunately, my financial options and also my experience is very limited in this regard. If anyone proposes a project…

Unfortunately, the "great pointing stick hardware" will likely run into some IBM patents. None of the other machines with pointing sticks have ever been able to get the same natural response as a TrackPoint, I believe partly because of these patents. What a deal: Lenovo doesn't want to make professional machines any more, but they won't likely let anyone else use the TrackPoint patents.

I actually used a Toshiba Tecra a long time ago (circa 2005) that had a pointing stick with response very close to a TrackPoint.

I don't think it would be impossible; only difficult.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by javert »

johnbender wrote: post #29
jordanb wrote: post #18

I've been a loyal Thinkpad user for more than a decade. There are three things that have kept me buying new thinkpads: The keyboard, the trackpoint, and the high degree of serviceability. I recently got a T-530 and was extremely disappointed with the changes made to the keyboard. The chiclet change was lame, but it was something I could ignore. The changes to the layout are a complete disaster. Important keys are gon…

I believe the trackpoint buttons are still there at the top of the trackpad. At least that was my reading of the post: "We unified the clickpad by integrating the trackpoint buttons into the elegant glass touchpad..." I sincerely hope they never discard the trackpoint, no matter how many times The Verge laments it's "confusing" presence.

We unified the clickpad by integrating the trackpoint buttons into the elegant glass touchpad, making it appear even larger and more streamline. The trackpad now has five buttons which you can customize for Windows 8 gestures via the device driver.

Hardcore long-time ThinkPad fan. This breaks the way the computer is used.

I don't even know what I'll do. The only other quality hardware maker I know is Apple.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by piyush_soni »

That ugly trackpoint (that red dot in the middle of keyboard) and that extremely irritating swapped position of Fn and Ctrl keys are the two things that keep me away from this otherwise excellent laptop. (Though the Fn and Ctrl keys can now be swapped from BIOS, but why? )

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by Stratoscope »

dylanz wrote: post #32

Lenovo needs to slowly remove the bizarre and seemingly random vendor/OS specific features of their machines, and simplify (if that's an option). For example, I know there is an Intel processor in the machine an Windows as a default install, so please don't put hard to remove stickers on my machine. I'm a big Lenovo fan, but they need to take a step back. Side note, PM me if you want to buy a nearly never used maxed…

Funny thing about the stickers: my current two ThinkPads (W520 and X220 Tablet) had three stickers each: one was Intel, I think the other was Microsoft, and the last one was Lenovo Enhanced Experience.

The Intel and Microsoft stickers came off easily and cleanly.

(Pro tip: Use the plastic toothpick from a Swiss Army Knife. The flat point is just right to get under the corner of a sticker and lift it loose. Then the rest of the sticker is easy to peel off.)

The Lenovo Enhanced Experience sticker? Quite a bit more tenacious. It was a real pain to get it loose at all, and then it left a bunch of residue behind. Some kind of Enhanced Experience!

I hate stickers.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by javert »

sliverstorm wrote: post #20
jlgreco wrote: post #19

I absolutely despise the removal of the trackpoint buttons. If I wanted a Mac, I'd buy a fucking Mac . Whatever happened to not alienating long time thinkpad users?

Whatever happened to not alienating long time thinkpad users? Presumably long time thinpad users switched to macs, is what happened.

No, that was not an option because of the track point.

Now that the track point is ruined, it's an option.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by javert »

neonkiwi wrote: post #39

I really like ThinkPads, but I think if they count rotating the logo to face up while open as a new feature, they should also include the feature of memorable model names. T431s? That's a SKU, not a model. Lenovo is experimenting with it's consumer-grade IdeaPad line—there's a Yoga, for instance—but it can still feel like a business machine with a memorable name.

Disagree. What could you possibly call a computer, that's not just arbitrary and dumb? Yoga is one of the worst names I've ever heard for a computer.

Re: Lenovo unveils new ThinkPad design

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Post by azatris »

Not a big fan of the changes here either. However, I must note that this:

"At the same time we added a living element to it with a new LED in the logo middle giving it a “heartbeat” of sorts. It’s functional too, showing the PC’s status of on or in sleep."

This feature has always let me distinguish my high-end T420 from other cheaper, worse models which have the ugly red led. With T420 I somewhat feel like this is the last good Thinkpad of the T-series, but of course I am biased.

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