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Future of Firefox DevTools

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Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by zobzu »

sergiotapia wrote: post #10
quaunaut wrote: post #9

At the moment, I really like Chrome because I just find the behavior of the Omnibar superior to Firefox's Awesomebar. But hot damn, you're making me question loyalties on my dev machine.

Haha, I just switched from Chrome to Firefox because I hate how Chrome prioritizes Google Search over my previous history. It's idiotic. Here, let me show you a clear example. http://i.imgur.com/uNsh7Yv.png Firefox clearly has the superior bar.

yeah and you can get chrome behavior in ff in the search bar, too. well except for the bug of course. The ff search bar does search for what you typed, not what you typed last. (and does shows instant results, too) best of both worlds.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by zobzu »

anonfunction wrote: post #138

It's amazing how much I respect Mozilla as an organization. First, they revolutionized browsers when none of the big players wanted to. Then they promoted open standards. And as of lately they have been championing developers with tools to succeed. This post confirms that they are actively engaging and working with their community to build a better product. What if we all did that? Lets replace "brainstorming" with "…

Mozilla does encourage community to give their ideas. There a zillion projects going on at Mozilla that would die for some constructive thinking help, although not all get the same attention.

That's also while I like organizations. No matter how people go at Mozilla saying they don't listen.. it's not quite true. Decisions will never satisfy absolutely everybody, but they listen and ask for tips quite a lot.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by theevocater »

kyrra wrote: post #125
quaunaut wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've personally internalized the downdown for going to things I've gone to before. However, I do brand new searches constantly . Often 20+ a day, that often look similar to older searches, but aren't quite. Now, whether I've developed that behavior because of Chrome, or because it works well for me, is a question for itself. Also, since I'm here- anyone get frequent fuckups lately in the Chrome omnibar, not searching…

(this is on a Mac) In Firefox, the hotkey "cmd-K" will put focus into the search bar at the top. In Chrome they don't have a keybind set to this by default (though on Windows they seem to). But if you open mac System Preferences, go to Keyboard, then Keyboard Shortcuts, and add an Application Shortcut for Chrome, you set the menu item name to "Search the Web..." and the keybind to whatever you want (I used "cmd-K").…

also, cmd-l (go to the awesomebar) and start with a ? to always search.

you can also have different engines

    ?cat
will search your default engine for cat

i have one for ddg so

    ddg cat
searches duck duck go for cat etc. its fantastic

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by druska »

I would like to see more standardized keyboard shortcuts. F12 is generally used to open the dev tools in most browsers (including opening FireBug). Another shortcut I'd like to see is Ctr+G to goto line in the scripts debugger.

I'd also like to see an improvement of the default source in the debugger pane. Guessing the proper script on the page that needs debugging can be a huge time saver.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by NuZZ »

paulrouget wrote: post #57
nzonbi wrote: post #52

This is looking fantastic. Some suggestions: - Allow to use a dark theme on all panels. I remember that for a short time, aurora had the dark themes on the html, css panels. It was great, but then it was reverted to the white background. It would be cool if there were a setting to choose the dark color theme. I loved it. - Add something like firepath. A firebug extension, that adds a panel to test CSS/sizzle (jquery)…

> - Allow to use a dark theme on all panels. I'm working on that. Screenshot: https://bug836233.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=719...

Brilliant. A friend and I were just talking about how cumbersome it's to work on a dark themed website using Firebug due to the default burn-your-eyes bright contrast bleeding into the site.

Keep it up, can't wait to ditch Firebug.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by codereflection »

h2s wrote: post #36
paulrouget wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fixed in Firefox 21.

My apologies, I remember in the original post you asked us to hold off on providing feedback unless the issues were present in recent Firefox versions. On the plus side, this motivated me to switch to Firefox Aurora just now and I must say, I'm extremely impressed!

I've been using Aurora for the past year or so, and haven't look back much. Occasionally I'll switch back to Chrome, but that's only when something in Aurora or nightly is broken.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by tmzt »

zobzu wrote: post #142
anonfunction wrote: post #138

It's amazing how much I respect Mozilla as an organization. First, they revolutionized browsers when none of the big players wanted to. Then they promoted open standards. And as of lately they have been championing developers with tools to succeed. This post confirms that they are actively engaging and working with their community to build a better product. What if we all did that? Lets replace "brainstorming" with "…

Mozilla does encourage community to give their ideas. There a zillion projects going on at Mozilla that would die for some constructive thinking help, although not all get the same attention. That's also while I like organizations. No matter how people go at Mozilla saying they don't listen.. it's not quite true. Decisions will never satisfy absolutely everybody, but they listen and ask for tips quite a lot.

Of course you never know which one will become the next Firefox. (In the sense of headline product.)

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by visarga »

The main problem for me is the narrow format of the dev tools. I can't see the web page well and I can't see the debugger well.

Docking to the right side is also bad, because it reduces my width and makes the page display badly.

I fondly remember the debugger I used to have in Borland Pascal 7 under MSDOS. Concise and efficient.

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