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Re: Startups Anonymous

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post #17

Why does it have to be startup-specific? There are lots of people who could use somebody to talk to when things get stressful, and there are lots of more stressful situations than running a startup. This just seems to reinforce the privileged status thing. I'd consider it crass if you set up a 'Harvard graduates hotline' too.

It helps to talk with someone who went through a similar experience. Of course there's other situation when things are stressful, and having someone to listen and talk helps but don't underestimate the value of a listener who has been there and can really relate to what's happening... So I don't think it's about status, I think it's just that they have a limited amount of time and first try to help the people that th…

You're right gommm - our reason for starting this was to build a resource for fellow entrepreneurs to talk about serious issues.

The only person who can help an entrepreneur out of the hole is one who has been there him/herself. NO ONE ELSE

We are all human after all

Re: Startups Anonymous

#22
Not the OP, but I am one of the guys behind SA. First of all, thank you for the nice emails and the gmail recommendation (we are answering emails and hope to fix this ASAP). Bobby and I deployed this Saturday afternoon and told 3 people, so this caught us a bit by surprise. Apologies if we reply late to folks.

I must note that both Bobby and I agree that we are very fortunate to work in an industry like tech. The reason we started this site, was because we wanted to do 2 things:

1. Pay it forward - when we closed our companies, people who heard about our troubles, some non-friends helped us out. We wanted to pay back the community which gave us so much.

2. Start small - Bobby and I know precious little about the world, but this is one area where we thought we could actually help.

Thanks once more for the support, and if you would like to be part of the folks of willing to listen to others, hit us up. @mexitlan and @bomatson.

Re: Startups Anonymous

#23
post #13

Also, if you're in San Francisco and ever want to grab a coffee and just chat with someone going down the same tough road, I'm happy to meet up. No pretenses, no bullshit, just real talk. You can also hit me up on IRC/Twitter: @dpg

thank you

Re: Startups Anonymous

#24
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps to talk with someone who went through a similar experience. Of course there's other situation when things are stressful, and having someone to listen and talk helps but don't underestimate the value of a listener who has been there and can really relate to what's happening... So I don't think it's about status, I think it's just that they have a limited amount of time and first try to help the people that th…

You're right gommm - our reason for starting this was to build a resource for fellow entrepreneurs to talk about serious issues. The only person who can help an entrepreneur out of the hole is one who has been there him/herself. NO ONE ELSE We are all human after all

How about we join forces bobby?We are both trying to help people, you more on the business side/me also taking care of the more personal side.I believe we can help more people this way.Email in the profile.In any case, good to see others help too.

Re: Startups Anonymous

#25

I am torn. On the one hand, running a startup is a very stressful experience even when things go relatively well. And they almost never do, so it's usually plain hell. It's great to have somewhere to turn to even if it's just to vent. On the other hand, I can't help but think that self-pity is getting a bit out of hand in our community lately. Startups aren't a sickness (unlike alcoholism for example). Starting one i…

"Startups aren't a sickness (unlike alcoholism for example). Starting one is a choice we are all making fully aware that failure is the expected outcome."

I really don't think this is the case. Yes, people give lip service to that concept, but no one thinks they will fail, and investors don't think their investments will fail. Yes, they may know statistics, but no one would explicitly start something with the expected outcome of wasting months/years of their life and boatloads of money.

It does seem to me that 'startup culture' is another avenue for some people with addictive tendencies to express addictions. TechCrunch is startup porn, and people get addicted to the stories it peddles.

Re: Startups Anonymous

#26
brilliant idea :) and a well-written introductory text.

I think that it's great for everyone (even those who currently don't need it) to know that you are there and willing to talk.

Re: Startups Anonymous

#28
It's really nice to see entrepreneurs caring enough about other entrepreneurs failed endeavors to offer a helping hand. It's common for an entrepreneur to feel alone. We're a rare breed and sometimes hard to understand by others who have never experienced owning a business or building a startup.

I myself have started and owned 4 different businesses in the last 10 years, from the age of 18 to now being 28. Each lasting anywhere from 2-3 years, 2 of which I failed, the 3rd which I sold and the 4th which I still currently own.

Every failed endeavor was a pierce in the heart and a devastating experience. Every failed endeavor required some downtime in order to evaluate what went wrong and in order to rebuilding my confidence. Through it all I can now boast in my failures. They've refined my ego, they've turned reckless ambition into fine tuned ambition. I've learned more from my failures than I have learned from my successes.

I feel that I now carry a protective shield containing knowledge and experience which help me through not just my business endeavors but as well as my life endeavors. Our Ego's play a big role in how we feel/react when things go right or wrong. It's common that an entrepreneur wants to project success at all times, and there is nothing wrong with that, you should, but it's the way you project it that could be faulty. It's common to see entrepreneurs "fake it until they make it". I also see some entrepreneurs personalities made up of a mix of condescending demeanor's and know it all attitudes. You don't have to always be right. You should always be humble enough to accept critique, to constantly learn. Your happiness should be based on the fact that you are constantly learning and conducting, not how far away you are from a multi-million dollar exit or your companies profitability. Don't get me wrong, that is the main purpose of your companies existence, but it shouldn't be yours. Obviously a company is in the business of making money and should conduct its decision making based on those goals but the best businesses/products/services created are from those who are genuinely interested in what they're building. Money cannot buy passion, but passion can buy money.

Don't let anger be the motive. You're not out to prove others wrong, you're not up against the world. It's easy for entrepreneurs to end up with a chip on their shoulder as being an entrepreneur is being a part of a rare breed that is not always understood well by others. The more you share your ideas with individuals who don't understand business, the more you open doors to the non-believers, who then are perceived as "haters". This all ends up being a waste of time and energy. The less refined your ego is, the more devastating the hit will be. Stay humble, stay modest and work like no other. Your work should come effortlessly. Office hours should feel like gaming hours. It's fun...all of it. The obstacles, the profits, the challenges, the levels...it's all a game. If your time spent doesn't feel anything close to that then perhaps you should reevaluate what it is that you're doing and why. Being an entrepreneur is a lifestyle, if it's not your style, then it's not your style. Regardless of the potential money made you'll never be happy if it's a life you're not interested in living and happiness should be the ultimate goal above all else.

-Paul Hanna

Re: Startups Anonymous

#29

I am torn. On the one hand, running a startup is a very stressful experience even when things go relatively well. And they almost never do, so it's usually plain hell. It's great to have somewhere to turn to even if it's just to vent. On the other hand, I can't help but think that self-pity is getting a bit out of hand in our community lately. Startups aren't a sickness (unlike alcoholism for example). Starting one i…

"Startups aren't a sickness (unlike alcoholism for example). Starting one is a choice we are all making fully aware that failure is the expected outcome." I really don't think this is the case. Yes, people give lip service to that concept, but no one thinks they will fail, and investors don't think their investments will fail. Yes, they may know statistics, but no one would explicitly start something with the expecte…

That's a good test to evaluate startups. How honest are the founders on their expected failure rate? If you're not a person they need to be lying to (i.e. not a potential/actual employee, investor, customer, journalist, etc), will they tell you that their realistic probability for success is very low?

If they can't do this, that's a red flag. Their irrationality will injure people in a relationship with them. They may disrespect others. Optimism is vital, but so is groundedness.

Re: Startups Anonymous

#30

Why does it have to be startup-specific? There are lots of people who could use somebody to talk to when things get stressful, and there are lots of more stressful situations than running a startup. This just seems to reinforce the privileged status thing. I'd consider it crass if you set up a 'Harvard graduates hotline' too.

There are plenty of non-specific resources for stressed people. These non-specific resources would probably prefer dealing with people whose issues are not due to loss of their privileged status. And this is no different from other resources that are specific to less "privileged" circumstances. . .alcoholism, drug addiction, rape, abuse, etc.
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