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Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

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Thanks for this helpful and encouraging post. As I was right this the main question I had was how do I know the difference between "Nobody wants what your selling" and "You need to do a better job marketing"? Retention is a great answer to the question.

Indeed, that's exactly right! I think for us, as soon as we saw that people were sticking around we knew we had to switch to "do a better job marketing". With retention, that was validation that there must be many more people out there who would find Buffer super useful, just like the people who were staying active. In essence, we needed to make more people aware of the value we were providing.

That's really awesome to hear. At what point did you start worrying about referrals? Was there a point in time when that naturally started to grow as more users, used it? Or was it something that didn't change unless you were focused on it?

Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

#114
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Pricing is tough. Part of setting a price is getting feedback from potential customers. Can I ask why it seems way off to you?

I'm not really a potential customer, but I'll jump in: $199 and $499 per month shocked me, and the range $29 to $499 completely confused me about your target customer. You should have an option marked "FREE" and in the same text as the paid options, and not just "free beta" but "free trial". It seems like your target customer is someone who's not going to set up PhantomJS on their own, right? For 500 dollars I'll fig…

Late addition: saying "I'm not really a potential customer" isn't quite right. I'm putting together a hobby-project website with a lot of SVG images and have been thinking of looking into PhantomJS to generate pngs or gifs for browsers where svg isn't supported (preemptively in case this sounds stupid: that's way down the road, so I don't know if what I'm describing makes sense). I read your post and thought that I would be completely happy to spend a dollar or two a month (expected non-svg traffic is basically zero, but I'd like to support twitter cards) to support your project and generate the images on the fly using your service as a CGI, but 1) the pricing convinced me that the answer is "no" and 2) I'm no closer to knowing if what I want makes sense.

A few tutorials on how to do various tasks with your service would help a lot too (beyond the one-liners).

Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

#115
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It's back up now. Useful service, I would use it assuming availability is good (I have jerryrigged something similar myself in the past and it was a real pain in the ass to get working smoothly). Suggested pricing seems way off though (I know it's free right now) - how did you figure out what was reasonable?

Pricing is tough. Part of setting a price is getting feedback from potential customers. Can I ask why it seems way off to you?

The price is exorbitant compared to the compute cost associated with each request, so let's assume that the value you provide here is that every other developer doesn't have to invest the setup time to build it themselves and keep it running smoothly.

I'm a developer, which I think everyone in your target market is, so let's assume I could probably roll my own version if I could dedicate a couple of days to it (that would be consistent with my previous experience). I'd expect you to set your pricing low enough that I should never even consider trying to roll my own, so low I never even bother to lookup the docs to see how hard it might be. As pseut says, the upper tiers are so expensive that you just motivated anyone considering that volume to go off and do the build/buy analysis.

I hope this is constructive feedback. There are lots of other good suggestions here on how to make your landing page convert better. If you take all the feedback on board, I do think you have a service that can provide value.

Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

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You are still lucky that your article is up here and i am sure you have thousands of sign-ups by now. I tried with my multiplx.com - an alternative for Google Reader and I am not able to get the traffic i need neither my post came to limelight in HN. So, it all depends... not sure when and what picks up..

Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

#118
To add more points of view. For me, your design is not that good. It is a mix of a website for a web framework and something with a menu plus the sign in in the same page. Copy the same design than the other service providers do. The design is not perfect. The texts are not well placed.

I think 4 different prices is too much. 3 is good or do something like "user, team, company", and then if we need to have more options we can contact you.

Your website is your biggest investment in Marketing. You should polish it. You also need to understand what your customers need. Their needs are certainly different than what you think.

Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

#119
post #20

I know how hard this can be. I've been doing startup stuff for 7 years. And it's still awfully painful. I'd encourage teaching to find an audience. I've been blogging and blogging and blogging. I ended up giving that up at one point. I thought I had more important things to do. I thought it wasn't growing enough. But that was foolish. The biggest thing that's changed a lot of things for me in the last year is simply…

Seven years is a long time. I am pretty on the same timeframe as well. I took a chance to redo everything over and this time with 5 months I have already launched my new product. My HN launch is kinda depressing as it just gave me 6 visits LOL. That traffic graph is my new motivation factor. I love to improve my writing to write blog like you but for now I am sticking to similar goal and that is to release an upgrade…

I have to wonder if releasing an upgrade is better than other things. Also you should leave your contact in your profile! My first reaction was to email you, but I have no way to reach you.

Re: Tell HN: My Web App has 13 Users

#120
I'm in a similar position, except I'm not trying to get new users. In fact, I'm trying to maintain a very small set of users so I can test ideas on them before I try to go bigger.

Getting users is great, but getting traction, meaning users who keep coming back is a much better goal to aim for. So out of your 9 users, start looking at the percentage, although small, that are regularly using your app.

I'm up to 83 users with 0 marketing and I'm trying out new ideas, watching the analytic data and responding over and over. It's a great spot to be in. Keep it up.

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