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Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#11

Post by hosay123 »

pavs wrote: post #8

I am a gadget geek just like any nerds out there. I like the concept of Google Glass but the practical application scares the shit out of me. Google Glass in its current form is every advertisers/data-miners perfect wet dream. I can see myself smacking someone for taking videos/pictures of me without my consent, by holding a camera right in my face. Google Glass almost legitimizes that kind of behavior. "Oh I can rec…

The more interesting question is how many multiples of existing growth will it be before Google start to use the data they collect in incredibly unfriendly ways.

How will they push their stock price above $1000? $1200?

I'd like to suggest another metric: September 11s (or "9/11s"). How many 9/11s will it be before Google's reuse of the data they collect is popularly legitimized, in their new role as the nation's biggest defence contractor? This is an insane idea, but I fear not sufficiently insane. I'd peg it at under a quarter of one 9/11.

The company must grow somehow. It must keep growing. As it exhausts its old business areas and sacrifices any ideals it may have once held, you have to at least entertain these crazy outcomes.

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#12

Post by Snoptic »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #10
pavs wrote: post #8

I am a gadget geek just like any nerds out there. I like the concept of Google Glass but the practical application scares the shit out of me. Google Glass in its current form is every advertisers/data-miners perfect wet dream. I can see myself smacking someone for taking videos/pictures of me without my consent, by holding a camera right in my face. Google Glass almost legitimizes that kind of behavior. "Oh I can rec…

As a consumer, I'd have less problems with Glass if it were developed and sold by a company that has nothing to do with advertising and has little interest in users' data (maybe like Canon, Nikon, or JVC). But even then, I wouldn't want to use it. I also won't interact with people while they are wearing Glass. I do not like it when people take my picture without my permission, and Glass is practically a spy camera. W…

This is idiotic opposition. Spy cameras exist. Bluetooth earpieces exist, Glass is interesting for what it receives (the server software integration) and for its HUD, not what it caputures and transmits.

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#13

Post by redact207 »

pavs wrote: post #8

I am a gadget geek just like any nerds out there. I like the concept of Google Glass but the practical application scares the shit out of me. Google Glass in its current form is every advertisers/data-miners perfect wet dream. I can see myself smacking someone for taking videos/pictures of me without my consent, by holding a camera right in my face. Google Glass almost legitimizes that kind of behavior. "Oh I can rec…

The video doesn't prove google glass is invasive. It just shows that people don't tolerate jerks too well. Even without the camera, having some weirdo come up and stare at you without having the decency to respond to you is of course going to annoy people. Nothing to do with technology.

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#14

Post by Samuel_Michon »

Snoptic wrote: post #12
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a consumer, I'd have less problems with Glass if it were developed and sold by a company that has nothing to do with advertising and has little interest in users' data (maybe like Canon, Nikon, or JVC). But even then, I wouldn't want to use it. I also won't interact with people while they are wearing Glass. I do not like it when people take my picture without my permission, and Glass is practically a spy camera. W…

This is idiotic opposition. Spy cameras exist. Bluetooth earpieces exist, Glass is interesting for what it receives (the server software integration) and for its HUD, not what it caputures and transmits.

Maybe for the wearer that's interesting, there's no such distinction to the people being recorded; they can't see what the wearer is up to with the device.

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#15

Post by TruthElixirX »

codezero wrote: post #4

One of the things that hurt the Segway's early adoption was that it was legislated against its intended use as a walking replacement -- they were legislated against (or rather, considered powered vehicles) by many nations and local governments. They are still illegal to drive on sidewalks in the UK. If enough people block the use of Glass, it could have an adverse effect on its sales and growth.

The Segway was a stupid idea:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/segsuck2.jpg

Source: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=segway_more_...

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#16

Post by Samuel_Michon »

hosay123 wrote: post #11
pavs wrote: post #8

I am a gadget geek just like any nerds out there. I like the concept of Google Glass but the practical application scares the shit out of me. Google Glass in its current form is every advertisers/data-miners perfect wet dream. I can see myself smacking someone for taking videos/pictures of me without my consent, by holding a camera right in my face. Google Glass almost legitimizes that kind of behavior. "Oh I can rec…

The more interesting question is how many multiples of existing growth will it be before Google start to use the data they collect in incredibly unfriendly ways. How will they push their stock price above $1000? $1200? I'd like to suggest another metric: September 11s (or "9/11s"). How many 9/11s will it be before Google's reuse of the data they collect is popularly legitimized, in their new role as the nation's bigg…

True, Cyberdyne Systems didn't start out as a defense contractor either.

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#17

Post by mgkimsal »

hosay123 wrote: post #11
pavs wrote: post #8

I am a gadget geek just like any nerds out there. I like the concept of Google Glass but the practical application scares the shit out of me. Google Glass in its current form is every advertisers/data-miners perfect wet dream. I can see myself smacking someone for taking videos/pictures of me without my consent, by holding a camera right in my face. Google Glass almost legitimizes that kind of behavior. "Oh I can rec…

The more interesting question is how many multiples of existing growth will it be before Google start to use the data they collect in incredibly unfriendly ways. How will they push their stock price above $1000? $1200? I'd like to suggest another metric: September 11s (or "9/11s"). How many 9/11s will it be before Google's reuse of the data they collect is popularly legitimized, in their new role as the nation's bigg…

Maybe they could create an RSS reader, and keep track of analytics and behaviour on how people read and consume their favorite sites' content, then insert relevant ads in that experience?

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

#18

Post by jspark »

Snoptic wrote: post #12
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a consumer, I'd have less problems with Glass if it were developed and sold by a company that has nothing to do with advertising and has little interest in users' data (maybe like Canon, Nikon, or JVC). But even then, I wouldn't want to use it. I also won't interact with people while they are wearing Glass. I do not like it when people take my picture without my permission, and Glass is practically a spy camera. W…

This is idiotic opposition. Spy cameras exist. Bluetooth earpieces exist, Glass is interesting for what it receives (the server software integration) and for its HUD, not what it caputures and transmits.

Google Glass will make recording others openly acceptable. Spy cameras and earpieces don't exist with the intention of ubiquitous use while Glass does.

Can you imagine everyone you know who wears glasses now using a camera at all times?

Re: Google Glass: The Opposition Grows

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Post by XorNot »

redact207 wrote: post #13
pavs wrote: post #8

I am a gadget geek just like any nerds out there. I like the concept of Google Glass but the practical application scares the shit out of me. Google Glass in its current form is every advertisers/data-miners perfect wet dream. I can see myself smacking someone for taking videos/pictures of me without my consent, by holding a camera right in my face. Google Glass almost legitimizes that kind of behavior. "Oh I can rec…

The video doesn't prove google glass is invasive. It just shows that people don't tolerate jerks too well. Even without the camera, having some weirdo come up and stare at you without having the decency to respond to you is of course going to annoy people. Nothing to do with technology.

It also ignores many of the things you can currently do. I've recorded more then one meeting by simply leaving my iPhone on record mode in my pocket. Audio is frequently more damning then video, and anyone can do that these days without giving anything away.

The right to privacy in public is generally regarded as a right to casual privacy - in the sense that many people can hear and may capture or accidentally record what you say, but won't publish or broadcast these events.

It seems the problem with Google Glass is more that it's forcing people to consider what has been true for a very long time: that wherever you go, chances are you're recorded in dozens of ways, by dozens of people, and the only actual defense is essentially social ettiquette in handling this content (and the fact that most people just don't care about who you are or what you do).

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