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Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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I'll say this: This behavior by Google has gotten me for the first time to take a deeper look at Microsoft's 365. I'll also be much more careful in the future before using GCE for a real business purpose.

Yeah, MS is oh so much more trustworthy. Like when they discontinued POP (and IMAP?) access on Hotmail accounts, before Gmail came about.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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I guess they're doing everything they can to get everyone to Google+. If they can't bait you, they force you. They want their own Facebook. Probably Blogger will also be phased out as soon as they afford to. But I don't think the future will belong neither to Google+ nor Facebook. I'm looking forward to a descentralized, user centric platform, that anyone can run on its raspberry pi box at home, that allows you to ma…

Far in the future when all these social networks are dead , RSS will still be alive , because it is a open protocol thus promote interoperability.

I like RSS and don't have social network accounts, but so what? Way before these companies die, others will have taken their place and do their job.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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I love how the closure of Reader reveals something about the tech journalists and "celebrities".

They throw tantrums. They throws hissy fits. They scream bloody murder. They divine doom and gloom for Google about how severely this will affect it in much more important markets like Android and Chrome.

And yet the world is not ending, and not every Facebook wall has this petition [1] plastered all over. Even GOOG stock underwent as a much as a correction, still hovering comfortably above $800.

What did happen, though, is that self-important "opinion leaders" had their illusions of power dispelled. No wonder they are furious.

[1] https://www.change.org/petitions/google-keep-google-reader-r...

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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> Google made a big mistake cancelling Google Reader that will have severe ripple effects to its empire. Oh come on: enough already. Obviously there was a /vocal/ user base which is very loudly now upset that the product is being sunset. Guess what, Google didn't see it as a large enough set of people to make it worth monetizing. Such is life. Move on. It's certainly not the end of Google if that's what this article…

I don't think people who use RSS realize what a small minority they are. I don't use RSS or Google Reader, I've never even seen it, but this week my Facebook has been filled by a tiny slice of my friends who are incredibly upset. The vast majority are just shrugging and not caring one bit. Only Google has the actual numbers on how many people are using their Reader, and they simply did the math. End of story. It's no…

The point here is that your facebook has been filled. In other words, there may only be a few upset people, but they're people that other folks (like you) listen to.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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In what way is this a move "towards the dark side"? I understand it's disappointing, but whenever someone doesn't do what you want, do you assume they're evil? There's an underlying sense of entitlement in the tech community that really rubs me the wrong way sometimes, honestly. Sometimes folks are going to make decisions that you don't agree with. That doesn't justify freaking out. "Getting disappointed" shouldn't b…

I agree that "dark side" is over the top. (I never thought Microsoft was so terrible either.) Maybe some of the resentment here is from the lingering feeling that Google should still be the best thing on the internet. For quite a long time, everything they did, they did so amazingly well. I loved that company. They got worse, the rest of the internet got better, and they really don't stand out the way they did. But s…

I've seen a handful of people say that they would have been willing to pay for Reader. But overall, I imagine that the complaining would have been just as loud had they started charging users for something that was previously free. And what if it was still unprofitable? They'd need to go through all the complaints a second time if they decided to close it down anyway.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Meh, I don't use google reader or really care, but I am pissed they plan on ending igoogle in November. It's insane to me that they will do this. It's my homepage and I'm sure millions of other people's homepages. Setting your homepage to an internet company's site is pretty much their whole goal. It's insane to me that they will give this up.

I think we all tend to assume that our computer habits are shared by millions of nameless other people. Presumably, Google have data on how many people visit igoogle, and it doesn't seem worth keeping.

My nameless millions and I no longer have a 'homepage' - the browser just starts with the tabs I had open last time.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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post #204

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I don't think people who use RSS realize what a small minority they are. I don't use RSS or Google Reader, I've never even seen it, but this week my Facebook has been filled by a tiny slice of my friends who are incredibly upset. The vast majority are just shrugging and not caring one bit. Only Google has the actual numbers on how many people are using their Reader, and they simply did the math. End of story. It's no…

The point here is that your facebook has been filled. In other words, there may only be a few upset people, but they're people that other folks (like you) listen to.

In this case it doesn't matter, because the vast majority of my friends don't know what RSS is, don't care, don't use it, and don't care about Google Reader.

The few that cared posted their angry rants, and noone cared. Noone commented. It's a complete non-issue.

And even if you accept the premise of the article, that the ones who care about Google Reader are influencers, what exactly does that mean in practice? Google doesn't have very many services that regular people use. There's search, and you'll never get people to stop using that. There's gmail, and you'll never get people to stop using that. There's Google+, and you'll never get people to use that, because they've got Facebook, and it's only nerds on G+ anyway.

I get the abstract point of the article, that if you upset influential people, they'll badmouth your product, and the Microsoft Word example made a lot of sense, because it stopped people from buying the latest version of it and sticking with what they had.

But that scenario doesn't apply here. Those of you who are upset about this, exactly which Google services will you stop promoting to your friends, and which alternatives will you suggest?

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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I don't know anyone in France who use Google reader or others. Maybe power users but even them... it's not that useful.

i do , and all the french journalists i know.

maybe in some professions, then it's a professional tool and not a "for everyone's" usage. There are several options out there aside from Google Reader, especially if you're willing to pay.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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This just shows Google just doesn't get design. Sure, they may have figured out CSS3 and made Gmail super hard to use, but they don't really get design. Ever noticed how Facebook kills a feature? Slow, steady, they drift you away, showing you by hand what better is out there, and then the feature disappears, first from our conscious, and then from the website. If FB was the one calling shots here, they probably would…

This is a great observation. Google could have turned all this frustration into energy for Google+, but they didn't.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Like self driving cars and Google Glass? Or the cheap/free fiber optic Internet access? Or free Wi-Fi in NYC? I do not think you know what evil means...

What's the point of a car that drives itself if there is nothing to read while you're driving? I was seriously looking forward to that - or even a text to speech app that reads Reader feeds.

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