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Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by losethos »

Word count is hard and ugly.

I wish I had good spelling check -- crappy dictionary.

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by OGinparadise »

IgorPartola wrote: post #73
tikhonj wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more a reaction to their general recent policy of doing far less away from their core business. They used to have a ton of projects with a very relaxed attitude about making money from any given project. Now that they've given up on focusing on that much beyond their bottom line, they're acting much more like other large companies which is not necessarily a good thing.

Like self driving cars and Google Glass? Or the cheap/free fiber optic Internet access? Or free Wi-Fi in NYC? I do not think you know what evil means...

Like self driving cars and Google Glass? Or the cheap/free fiber optic Internet access? Or free Wi-Fi in NYC?

Self driving cars, like this http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57367893-71/a-self-driving... or http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/04/autos/toyota-self-driving-ca... or http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416535,00.asp ?

Tell me what's so amazing, never done before, about Glass? Google is seeing ads there.

Fiber and WIFI, while extremely limited in geography* and are great, until Google pulls the plug. That's the point.

*There's no "Free wifi in NYC from Google", just in a tiny neighborhood.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by [deleted] »

IgorPartola wrote: post #73
tikhonj wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more a reaction to their general recent policy of doing far less away from their core business. They used to have a ton of projects with a very relaxed attitude about making money from any given project. Now that they've given up on focusing on that much beyond their bottom line, they're acting much more like other large companies which is not necessarily a good thing.

Like self driving cars and Google Glass? Or the cheap/free fiber optic Internet access? Or free Wi-Fi in NYC? I do not think you know what evil means...

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by codesuela »

IgorPartola wrote: post #73
tikhonj wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more a reaction to their general recent policy of doing far less away from their core business. They used to have a ton of projects with a very relaxed attitude about making money from any given project. Now that they've given up on focusing on that much beyond their bottom line, they're acting much more like other large companies which is not necessarily a good thing.

Like self driving cars and Google Glass? Or the cheap/free fiber optic Internet access? Or free Wi-Fi in NYC? I do not think you know what evil means...

Also Android, I'd vote for Android over Google Reader every day and associated services like Play/Google Play Music (which is awesome by the way you should check it out) and hardware (Nexus 7). Oh and Go(lang) and Chrome with V8 which lead to Node JS being borne.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by graeme »

llambda wrote: post #3

> Google made a big mistake cancelling Google Reader that will have severe ripple effects to its empire. Oh come on: enough already. Obviously there was a /vocal/ user base which is very loudly now upset that the product is being sunset. Guess what, Google didn't see it as a large enough set of people to make it worth monetizing. Such is life. Move on. It's certainly not the end of Google if that's what this article…

You missed the article's point, which was that the vocal users were power users, and influencers.

Several tens of thousands of highly influential people are now less likely to speak well of google, less likely to install chrome on a friend's computer, less likely to urge a parent to switch to gmail, etc.

I don't know how big the effect will be; less likely is a relative term. (this confuses people to no end) But the effect will be stronger than numbers alone indicate.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by ddunkin »

How many little web services have you all used, that have come and gone over the years, that never had as much money behind them as Google? Most people are going to trust that Google has a better chance long-term, even if the product has a chance of going away some day. I am always leery of my data with small companies, and make sure there is a good backup/exit strategy (obviously, this applies to Google too).

I see a lot of passionate tweets over just another web service. If Google wasn't killing the service, but asking users to spread the word to keep the service, would they be so passionate about it then? Maybe. People don't often go to Twitter when their service is working, generally when they're pissed (unless the service is mind-blowing great). I just don't think all the whining is going to do much convincing at this point, or that it will impact Google all that much.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by OGinparadise »

WiseWeasel wrote: post #17

What are "influencers" going to do about it? Give Reader a bad review? Complain about the death of a product no one knew existed? I don't see how they have any leverage in this situation. The comparison with Microsoft's Word Count incident seems weakly relevant.

View Google at a new light, not give them the benefit of a doubt. If Google does something, they'll try to see what's the catch. Google has gotten a lot of good, free press
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