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Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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I think it will hurt Google. Who use reader ? journalists , analysts , and they are pissed off. I dont recall such a huge reaction when other Google services shut down.

Yeah. They're furious . https://twitter.com/ginatrapani/status/312451705692385280

"Yep. And it never figured out how to handle high-vol and low-vol blogs together in any meaningful way". What I always thought but was never able to articulate so well (hi again fellow twitter user).

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it will hurt Google. Who use reader ? journalists , analysts , and they are pissed off. I dont recall such a huge reaction when other Google services shut down.

Yeah. They're furious . https://twitter.com/ginatrapani/status/312451705692385280

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Google officially lost the "we're not Facebook /Microsoft /Apple [other "evil empire"] company." They have played that game for way too long and many people fell for it. Since Larry Page took over, Google has lost it's soul; now it's just a greedy, money grubbing machine. Nothing is sacred anymore, no matter how much they repeat http://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/

Out of curiosity, when was the last time they trotted out that philosophy?

Every day they keep it on their website.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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post #62

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I think it's more a reaction to their general recent policy of doing far less away from their core business. They used to have a ton of projects with a very relaxed attitude about making money from any given project. Now that they've given up on focusing on that much beyond their bottom line, they're acting much more like other large companies which is not necessarily a good thing.

Like self driving cars and Google Glass? Or the cheap/free fiber optic Internet access? Or free Wi-Fi in NYC? I do not think you know what evil means...

Self driving cars are like Microsoft Hailstorm. It's all bombast for now and then somebody clever will steal their lunch. And it is a deviation from their Google core.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned is how odd it is that google is killing a product likely used widely within Google .

I guess it's a sign of maturity when Google realizes that their own employees are not representative of the general Internet market that Google is targeting.

Lying in a coffing in a fancy suit is a sign of maturity too.

Why is that kind of maturity good these days? For whom?

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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So, what's going to happen, exactly? "Influencers" who liked Google Reader, now jilted, are going to use their magic influence beam to halt the growth of Android, to erode the dominance of Google in search, and prevent the regulatory approval of self-driving cars? Google has quite a few heavy responsibilities on their hands. They have to manage growth and competition in hugely complex, emerging fields. The lesson the…

The point is that the 'influencers' will be aware of alternatives and are vocal about it. If you use a service of google's because there is another service of gooogle's that you use a lot - the tie is a lot looser, and when people are suggested alternatives it becomes a lot easier for them to move away.

While looking for a google reader alternative I ended up finding out about owncloud and now I use that to manage and sync my calendars and contacts across my devices, I also moved my domain email to zoho and infact the only service I am tied into of googles now is the android play store.

I used google apps for ages and had a free account before it got paid only (except that way of getting a 1 user apps account through some other google service) and I did that because it was so easy, and i reccomended it to anyone getting a domain.

That probably won't be the case any more.

So, I was in search of a new rss reader, and I had no intention of completely moving out of the google ecosystem, but I ended up finding a system that works better for me, and when people come to me (who come to me because 'i know tech' or whatever), and ask me what they should set up there new domain with, they will get a completely new answer.

This is just a personal story and i'm sure its not relevant to everyone but my point is that this move, and others, is damaging their brand and when you introduce people to RSS who have no idea what it is, and then you show them google reader and they love the fact they dont even need to make an account because they already have gmail, they love it. That is gone

Maybe my point is better illustrated by this post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5383495

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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post #26

If Google is shutting down reader, are they going to remove RSS feeds from Blogger? What about Feedburner? I think Google's better move would have been cut a few features and 'Plus-ify' Reader - kinda like they have been doing with their other products. They would have evolved an important user base, shown commitment to the RSS standard, and kept a number of important apps using their api's. Aren't they after all sup…

blogger and feedburner are next. They want you to move to spooky G+ ...

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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> Third, and lastly, Google is sending a strong signal to the market that it will have no mercy of killing whatever product it doesn’t think it’s going well.

They have been doing that for years. I'm not sure if anything but Search and Gmail are safe from the axe. They'll probably not end-of-life Maps or G+, but almost anything else should probably be treated as a beta that can be removed at will.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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> First, Google says that it “gets” social, but you can’t “get” social if you don’t get the concept of an influencer. By killing a product that was beloved and heavily used by most influencers, you start to alienate those folks.

If op is right about Google Reader users, then the same thing is happening with OS X users. A part of the reason for OS X's success was adoption by influencers. Samsung, Android, and others have made a lot of inroads on influencer groups.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. They're furious . https://twitter.com/ginatrapani/status/312451705692385280

"Yep. And it never figured out how to handle high-vol and low-vol blogs together in any meaningful way". What I always thought but was never able to articulate so well (hi again fellow twitter user).

How would you expect it to handle high and low volume blogs together "meaningfully"? I guess I'm not really sure what the problem is: it's pretty easy to put all your high volume stuff into a single category so you can mark everything read at once, if that is the issue.
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