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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by tomkarlo »

Mindless2112 wrote: post #10

This was my second thought when Google announced that they were retiring Reader (the first was "Nooo!") Half of my friends use Gmail because I suggested that they switch. I am starting to see Google move toward the dark side, and that means you won't see me recommending Google products to friends. It'll take a while, but there will be backlash... because I'm not the only one in this boat.

In what way is this a move "towards the dark side"? I understand it's disappointing, but whenever someone doesn't do what you want, do you assume they're evil?

There's an underlying sense of entitlement in the tech community that really rubs me the wrong way sometimes, honestly. Sometimes folks are going to make decisions that you don't agree with. That doesn't justify freaking out. "Getting disappointed" shouldn't be filed in the same drawer with "getting cheated" or other such violations.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by Hytosys »

ak217 wrote: post #29
kevink245 wrote: post #24

An article full of nonsense. Discontinuing Google Reader IS NOT sending a message to enterprises that they should not use Google product for the long term.

Sorry, but your statement needs more to back it up, because the opposing viewpoint has an easy logical justification. Why should companies transfer their core infrastructure onto Google's products if they know Google might decide one day to discontinue them? I know lots of companies rely on and pay for GMail, I'm sure it won't be discontinued anytime soon, but I'm also sure this event puts thoughts in the back of man…

The day that e-mail becomes widely irrelevant is the day that Google thoughtfully cancels Gmail. Google is a business. If they lose enough customers, it's not worth maintaining an expensive system just to satisfy the vocal minority who gets up and writes self-entitled articles like OP's. Google has been pulling plugs on services for the longest time; they're not a charity, they're a company. I don't think this makes them evil!

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by r00fus »

nemothekid wrote: post #6

I'm unconvinced Google is about to learn anything because this isn't the first time they have killed a product with a large following. It seems now if a product doesn't generate at least 100 million, it isn't safe from being discontinued. So YouTube, will continue to live alongside Search, but it looks like Picassa is on its way to be rebranded "Google+Pictures" Instead it looks like everyone else is going to learn t…

Of course, Google deserves to support/sunset whatever products they want.

The danger is that they've tasted Microsoft-level power in their ascendant Android/Chrome business, and want more.

There is a lot to be said about "leaving something on the table" and not maximizing everything. When you're the largest collector of personal data (other than perhaps the US Govt), you need goodwill or (influential) people will revile you.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by crander »

notatoad wrote: post #11

Perhaps google learns a tough lesson. Or perhaps bloggers who think they are "influencers" are going to learn a tough lesson about how much impact their influence really has. Google knows what they're doing. They haven't forgotten the outrage that happened after they stripped the social features out of reader and replaced it with the +1 button. They knew all those people and more would be pissed. And they decided it…

No, they hoped it wouldn't mater. Unless they've perfected the ability to predict the future they and everyone else won't know for quite some time.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by andr3w321 »

Meh, I don't use google reader or really care, but I am pissed they plan on ending igoogle in November. It's insane to me that they will do this.

It's my homepage and I'm sure millions of other people's homepages. Setting your homepage to an internet company's site is pretty much their whole goal. It's insane to me that they will give this up.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by [deleted] »

danilocampos wrote: post #28

So, what's going to happen, exactly? "Influencers" who liked Google Reader, now jilted, are going to use their magic influence beam to halt the growth of Android, to erode the dominance of Google in search, and prevent the regulatory approval of self-driving cars? Google has quite a few heavy responsibilities on their hands. They have to manage growth and competition in hugely complex, emerging fields. The lesson the…

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Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by twelvechairs »

It shouldn't really come as a surprise that Google is acting more and more now like a big established company with shareholders (which they are). When you become an established industry leader (as a profit-driven shareholder company), you tend to focus on minimising overheads, cutting cruft and focusing on core profit-driven services.

They aren't going to be benevolent dictators of the internet forever - we should be thankful that their benevolence has lasted so long (and still is lasting through many free services provided).

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by danilocampos »

[deleted] wrote: post #46
danilocampos wrote: post #28

So, what's going to happen, exactly? "Influencers" who liked Google Reader, now jilted, are going to use their magic influence beam to halt the growth of Android, to erode the dominance of Google in search, and prevent the regulatory approval of self-driving cars? Google has quite a few heavy responsibilities on their hands. They have to manage growth and competition in hugely complex, emerging fields. The lesson the…

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> You dont know a damn thing about RSS , Aaron Schwartz did not died so a dch like you can claim RSS is dead , go back to your Twitter/Facebook/write your dumb social network here/ sandbox ... you just dont have a clue...

Yeah, tell me more about Aaron "Schwartz."

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by camus »

wmf wrote: post #40
gfodor wrote: post #2

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is how odd it is that google is killing a product likely used widely within Google .

I guess it's a sign of maturity when Google realizes that their own employees are not representative of the general Internet market that Google is targeting.

so maybe they should kill ChromeBooks and G+ already , nobody cares about that damn stuff.

Re: Google is about to learn a tough lesson

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Post by ersii »

henrikschroder wrote: post #13
llambda wrote: post #3

> Google made a big mistake cancelling Google Reader that will have severe ripple effects to its empire. Oh come on: enough already. Obviously there was a /vocal/ user base which is very loudly now upset that the product is being sunset. Guess what, Google didn't see it as a large enough set of people to make it worth monetizing. Such is life. Move on. It's certainly not the end of Google if that's what this article…

I don't think people who use RSS realize what a small minority they are. I don't use RSS or Google Reader, I've never even seen it, but this week my Facebook has been filled by a tiny slice of my friends who are incredibly upset. The vast majority are just shrugging and not caring one bit. Only Google has the actual numbers on how many people are using their Reader, and they simply did the math. End of story. It's no…

Uhm, I've always thought I've been in a pretty small minority - but at least here in Sweden, RSS reading is pretty normal.

Though, the majority of people here aren't using Google Reader - so I guess I'm a minority there - but they're using "Bloglovin".

They're pretty large it seems.

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