Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader • Hacker News Board

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by adestefan » Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 2:02 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #60

adestefan wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No damn it. This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. Most people who have stuck with Reader do not want anything to do with mixing RSS and social crap.

> This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. The large number of vocal people complaining specifically about how much worse Google+ is than the old reader sharing system (search for "sharebros" or http://www.buzzfeed.com/robf4/googles-lost-social-network ) would suggest this is not true. With the exception of hardcore introverts, most people like the idea of sharing - but only when it's actually doing somethi…

I'm not against sharing. What I hate is when sharing turns into blasting everything I do out to the world without my consent each time. I don't want people to know every song I listen to, every news article I read, or every HN post I open. If this makes me introverted, then I don't want to be cool and hip.

See the recent stories about LinkedIn blasting out stuff to every contact in an address book or the historical fubars of Facebook changing defaults on the fly.

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by ChuckMcM » Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 3:40 PM UTC

adestefan wrote: post #57

ChuckMcM wrote: post #17

Personally, this could be a killer use of App.net. Blend social with RSS and get something like Pandora for newsfeeds. Not sure how hard it would be to pull an RSS feed and then push that into an App.net stream, blended with some meta data on content and a machine learning algorithm which enhanced your feeds by finding similar feeds that has a high correlative match to what you read most. Just sayin'

No damn it. This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. Most people who have stuck with Reader do not want anything to do with mixing RSS and social crap.

Interesting mix.

So my thought was not 'sharing' in the sense of having your friends know you just read an article on TechCrunch, rather that you and your friends characterize the TechCrunch feed as '"news", "gossip", "opinion" => related to (startups)' so that when I or they start reading other things that are 'related to (startups)' the reader could mention or perhaps occasionally inject articles into that 'feed/grouping' (Pandora has the notion of a 'radio station' which is similar).

Basically the extent of your "sharing" with the rest of the community (with respect to the reader) is that you think agree that TechCrunch is about startups. The community helps create the taxonomy of the feeds they are reading so that the reader can know if some feed that one person is reading might be of interest to someone who is reading feeds that are similar to that. (with no knowledge about who is reading those other feeds, just that the the other person has the same sort of interests you have expressed for a feed)

I'm going to assume the app adds on to every article the familar /tweet/share/like/etc tags so if you are a social media engaged person you can push it out to your social media stream as well.

Even though I am "stuck in the 70's" in my music tastes according to my wife I enjoy the music Pandora finds for me on my originally 'bands from the 70's' radio station.

The only thing reader seemed to be missing for me was a way to discover new blogs to follow. That function is being provided a bit by HN these days but its hit or miss.

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by jcslzr » Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 4:23 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #60

adestefan wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No damn it. This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. Most people who have stuck with Reader do not want anything to do with mixing RSS and social crap.

> This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. The large number of vocal people complaining specifically about how much worse Google+ is than the old reader sharing system (search for "sharebros" or http://www.buzzfeed.com/robf4/googles-lost-social-network ) would suggest this is not true. With the exception of hardcore introverts, most people like the idea of sharing - but only when it's actually doing somethi…

can rss feeds be added to Google+ ?

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by acdha » Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 8:35 PM UTC

adestefan wrote: post #61

acdha wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. The large number of vocal people complaining specifically about how much worse Google+ is than the old reader sharing system (search for "sharebros" or http://www.buzzfeed.com/robf4/googles-lost-social-network ) would suggest this is not true. With the exception of hardcore introverts, most people like the idea of sharing - but only when it's actually doing somethi…

I'm not against sharing. What I hate is when sharing turns into blasting everything I do out to the world without my consent each time. I don't want people to know every song I listen to, every news article I read, or every HN post I open. If this makes me introverted, then I don't want to be cool and hip. See the recent stories about LinkedIn blasting out stuff to every contact in an address book or the historical f…

> If this makes me introverted, then I don't want to be cool and hip.

It just means you want good social software rather than things designed for advertisers. The original Google Reader sharing model was exactly what you describe: use it in private until you choose to share something.

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by acdha » Fri, Mar 15, 2013, 8:36 PM UTC

jcslzr wrote: post #63

acdha wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is exactly why Google is closing down Reader. The large number of vocal people complaining specifically about how much worse Google+ is than the old reader sharing system (search for "sharebros" or http://www.buzzfeed.com/robf4/googles-lost-social-network ) would suggest this is not true. With the exception of hardcore introverts, most people like the idea of sharing - but only when it's actually doing somethi…

can rss feeds be added to Google+ ?

Since it would have been the right want to migrate Reader, I'm assuming they view this as a competitive disadvantage - probably because they're trying to push content providers to maintain a G+ presence.