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Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

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Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#21
"Based on cryptography, it is secure and deterministic as we require for digital services."

This is a bad understanding of cryptography. Bitcoin does not provide security in the cryptographic sense, any more than Skype or Hushmail. It uses secure cryptographic primitives but can be successfully attacked (double-spent) in polynomial time.

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automatic dollar-averaged investment done by the company. I would like that service if I were a regular worker.

In the most volatile stock ever

Wouldn't it be more accurate to call it a commodity? Stocks are (usually) stakes in a company, whose employees are actively trying to make a profit for the shareholders, whereas currencies just kind of... sit there (and move around, more or less randomly, at least, non-predictably).

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#23
post #4

Good luck doing your taxes! Seriously. Is there any simple guidance on how to figure your income if paid in BTC?

I wonder how one would go about taxing bitcoin transactions at all if there is no record that can be tied with certainty to a person.

You probably get the same thing you do with the cash economy where people just make up the lowest figure that sounds vaguely plausible.

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the most volatile stock ever

And the best-performing asset for the last 2-3 years or so? Also pretty natural for high-tech IT company to allow this kind of thing.

Past performance is not an indication of future performance.

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#25

"Based on cryptography, it is secure and deterministic as we require for digital services." This is a bad understanding of cryptography. Bitcoin does not provide security in the cryptographic sense, any more than Skype or Hushmail. It uses secure cryptographic primitives but can be successfully attacked (double-spent) in polynomial time.

> It uses secure cryptographic primitives but can be successfully attacked (double-spent) in polynomial time.

Does that kind of sentence promote better understanding how cryptography or bitcoin works for the average Joe?

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#26

"Based on cryptography, it is secure and deterministic as we require for digital services." This is a bad understanding of cryptography. Bitcoin does not provide security in the cryptographic sense, any more than Skype or Hushmail. It uses secure cryptographic primitives but can be successfully attacked (double-spent) in polynomial time.

> It uses secure cryptographic primitives but can be successfully attacked (double-spent) in polynomial time. Does that kind of sentence promote better understanding how cryptography or bitcoin works for the average Joe?

No, perhaps it would be better phrased as this: Bitcoin does not meet the minimum standard of security required by modern cryptography despite being built on systems that do meet such a standard. Even that phrasing is suboptimal, though, since the definition of "security" for a hash function is different from the definition for a signature system and both are different from the definition used for digital cash.

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the best-performing asset for the last 2-3 years or so? Also pretty natural for high-tech IT company to allow this kind of thing.

Past performance is not an indication of future performance.

I didn't say so.

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#29

So is this like company script? I mean I wouldn't want to be paid in BTC unless it was widely accepted.

I understood that if you want, you can ask to be paid a part of your salary in BTC. If I was to work for them, I would definitely ask them to automatically pay me like 1% of my salary in BTC each month. Why? Because I could.

Re: Finnish HTML5 house SC5 pays salary and accepts payments as Bitcoins

#30
post #4

Good luck doing your taxes! Seriously. Is there any simple guidance on how to figure your income if paid in BTC?

I wonder how one would go about taxing bitcoin transactions at all if there is no record that can be tied with certainty to a person. You probably get the same thing you do with the cash economy where people just make up the lowest figure that sounds vaguely plausible.

This already happens with cash tips in the service industries.
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