1.) Set up google apps account. 2.) Turn on a custom skin. 3.) Profit?
Now that is agile.
MVP
I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
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Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you used elance? I've been posting multiple jobs per month for years and 90% of proposals I receive are PHP devs from India that charge ~$10/hour. That's not a bad thing. Many of those guys are highly skilled and I hire them often.
I heard a story from a friend who works in the oil industry. The Indian dev team had updated the software that controlled the oil flow from a field, but they'd introduced a bug that was losing $5000 (or barrels, memory fails me) a day somehow. They couldn't roll back to the previous version because they weren't using version control for the software. I've seen some balls ups from UK teams too fwiw, but nothing that a…
If you think that all developers of $NATIONALITY use version control, I have a bridge to sell you.
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#53This is no exception. elance, freelancer, odesk are full of such projects. And he will get a lot of bids, someone will even be ready to do it for $100! There are lots of people out there who think building and running a web service like email or social network or even a search engine is a piece of cake!
With news of one year old startups getting acquired for billions Everybody wants to be a web entrepreneur. :) During my freelancing days I have seen a lot of such requests, and they never actually get awarded because someone sensible will write a comment saying you can't build such a service for that amount and that the front end they see is just the tip of the iceberg and there are costs involved in running the servers and getting users and all.
But there are some who go ahead and in fact at places like scriptcopy.com you will find clone scripts for almost anything - Facebook, eBay, Hotmail. I have seen someone selling Yahoo clone script for $20! Some even provide hosting. Go figure!
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#54Just because you're not in a cubicle doesn't mean that you've escaped the Dilbert comic strip. Now that the shutdown of Google Reader is in the news, about two weeks ago, someone posted an offer on Elance for a website with a few RSS feeds posted to it. When I made a proposal asking for details, I got an e-mail essentially asking for Google Reader but with a snazzier user interface. Yup, the asking price was "less th…
> It saddens and enrages me to ponder how many people either have so little respect for programmers or so much ignorance of programming that they think that they can get away with this. Would these people try the same thing with lawyers? Or even plumbers?
I don't think it should sadden or enrage you. The vast majority of people posting on these sites have very little idea what it takes to get things done, what constitutes quality work, etc. If they see they can get a dev to work on something for $5 / hour and detail what they want and get it delivered, I fail to see how it affects you in any way. There is always going to be a low-end market for developers. If wages in countries currently popular for outsourcing/contracting go up, there will be another group of developing countries with people willing to work for "low" wages.
If you're looking for work, I know at least oDesk allows you to filter based on price, so you don't need to see these types of jobs. I know many people are willing to pay higher wages to experienced designers and developers who do quality work, are reliable, and can easily understand specs and offer expertise. While I imagine a ton of work on these sites are done for $5-10/hour, I do see some people getting paid $50+/hour for their work.
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
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> an indian PHP dev on elance who charges $10 an hour Stereotyping much?
If I post a job to one of these sites, it's pretty much guaranteed to get 20+ responses from devs in India. Most are pre-written responses that don't really show that the project was read in any sort of detail. I'd actually be curious to find out how these operations actually work. Are they solo devs just casting a massive net ? Solo devs actually outsourcing responding to gigs? Agencies applying for as many jobs as…
I think they're just cheap and aggressive companies. I had one calling me daily trying to "partner". I had to yell at him to get him to stop.
What I don't get is why some of these guys don't approach business like their US counterparts and charge US rates. They could live like kings in some areas of the world. Maybe that's easier said than done. But even the good ones seem to compete on price.
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#56If they're going to pay $500 for it, give them $500 worth of work. Let's see, if you bill $150/hour, then that's 3 full hours. 3 full hours, assuming you type 120 wpm, with 10 minute breaks per hour, that's 18KB.
As stupid as what I described is, I bet it would appeal to the people who think you can clone something like that for $500. Scope is everything!
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#57Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#58Just because you're not in a cubicle doesn't mean that you've escaped the Dilbert comic strip. Now that the shutdown of Google Reader is in the news, about two weeks ago, someone posted an offer on Elance for a website with a few RSS feeds posted to it. When I made a proposal asking for details, I got an e-mail essentially asking for Google Reader but with a snazzier user interface. Yup, the asking price was "less th…
> Would these people try the same thing with lawyers? Or even plumbers? I'm sure that lawyers and plumbers field questions from people who don't understand what they cost all the time. It's part of doing business.
Exactly. Developers really get their panties in a wad over this. Get over yourselves.
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you used elance? I've been posting multiple jobs per month for years and 90% of proposals I receive are PHP devs from India that charge ~$10/hour. That's not a bad thing. Many of those guys are highly skilled and I hire them often.
I heard a story from a friend who works in the oil industry. The Indian dev team had updated the software that controlled the oil flow from a field, but they'd introduced a bug that was losing $5000 (or barrels, memory fails me) a day somehow. They couldn't roll back to the previous version because they weren't using version control for the software. I've seen some balls ups from UK teams too fwiw, but nothing that a…
What moron outsourced mission critical software like this? I'm not sure I'm buying this story.
Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
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Pfft. I could knock this out in a weekend, maybe an all-nighter if I make some really strong coffee.
pop some modafinil, you'll be done in 4 hours if your genetics are conducive to the drug...
geez..you don't really take such drugs, do you? Have you ever tried turkish coffee? A friend of mine is a coffee junkie, but he got a racing heart and felt immensly active after one cup. Something he never felt before and we coded until 4 in the Morning :) hehe However he'll stick to less coffeinated drinks in the future.
Even coffeeine should be used in limited dosasges. So, please don't recommend drugs anymore.