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Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by pnachbaur »

zarify wrote: post #39
ChuckMcM wrote: post #17

Personally, this could be a killer use of App.net. Blend social with RSS and get something like Pandora for newsfeeds. Not sure how hard it would be to pull an RSS feed and then push that into an App.net stream, blended with some meta data on content and a machine learning algorithm which enhanced your feeds by finding similar feeds that has a high correlative match to what you read most. Just sayin'

I've seen a lot of suggestions for replacements (either already out there or just an idea) since yesterday which want to blend social networks with RSS and personally it seems like a terrible idea[1]. I can't be alone in just wanting a news feed and not some mashup of the news and what's being talked about. [1] - I realise the irony in complaining about not wanting social news yet still following personal blogs, but…

I think you could do something really interesting simply by connecting feed usage data and content data, which (I believe) was zarify's idea of 'Pandora for newsfeeds'.

There are companies along this line[1], but I'd prefer a solution with just rss usage/content data, and not the social streams as well.

[1] Prismatic and Percolate come to mind

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by [deleted] »

corresation wrote: post #29
swombat wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you completely stupid or are you just trolling us? On the off chance you're just stupid, here's some enlightenment. Marco Arment is a cofounder of hugely successful Tumblr and creator of Instapaper, both of which certainly make or made him more money than he'll ever make from ads on his blog, however popular. He's also created The Magazine, which probably makes a fair bit of cash already, and will be making more…

Marco Arment is a cofounder of hugely successful Tumblr and creator of Instapaper, both of which certainly make or made him more money than he'll ever make from ads on his blog, however popular. The GP post should be nuked from orbit, but the reasoning you put there is hilariously specious. If it is so irrelevant, then why are they there? Why does Arment stuff entries full of credibility-diminishing "sponsored by" te…

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Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

#43

Post by snowwrestler »

davidpayne11 wrote: post #10

Please, as an advice to general HN posters, please avoid posting marco.org links here on HN, because his sole intention is to sell his readers out more than focusing on writing. That's a fairly grande accusation, but it's justified. Do you know why is he writing about Google Reader now? Go to your HN homepage right now, as of writing this comment, the Google reader announcement has about 1700 upvotes. Ouch, that's a…

Twist: Marco actually posted this, so he could have an excuse to write another ad-revenue-generating post for HN.

http://www.marco.org/2013/03/14/davidpayne

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by tpz »

Kylekramer wrote: post #40
tomfakes wrote: post #31

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The irony for me is that I had no idea Marco had ads on his site, because I get to read his blog content in Google Reader!

You would still get ads there.

In the form of periodically-interspersed sponsor posts which are explicitly stated as being such and which are never mixed with actual content. As feed monetization goes, its about as above board as it can get.

Of course, being as above board as possible would still not be good enough for the anti-Marco brigade stomping around this pale imitation of what HN once was. I certainly wasn't here right from the beginning, so no hipster douchbaggery intended by any stretch, but I swear to those who have arrived more recently: You have no idea how good HN used to be compared to this. Sad, truly sad.

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by Kylekramer »

tpz wrote: post #44
Kylekramer wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would still get ads there.

In the form of periodically-interspersed sponsor posts which are explicitly stated as being such and which are never mixed with actual content. As feed monetization goes, its about as above board as it can get. Of course, being as above board as possible would still not be good enough for the anti-Marco brigade stomping around this pale imitation of what HN once was. I certainly wasn't here right from the beginning,…

What anti-Marco brigade? A heavily downvoted post and me pointing out that you would in fact get ads if you subscribed to his site via a feed reader? Dude has like half his posts hit the top here, HN loves him. A very, very tiny minority don't.

But yes, I like nostalgia too.

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by [deleted] »

davidpayne11 wrote: post #10

Please, as an advice to general HN posters, please avoid posting marco.org links here on HN, because his sole intention is to sell his readers out more than focusing on writing. That's a fairly grande accusation, but it's justified. Do you know why is he writing about Google Reader now? Go to your HN homepage right now, as of writing this comment, the Google reader announcement has about 1700 upvotes. Ouch, that's a…

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Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by dingusmaster »

swombat wrote: post #22
davidpayne11 wrote: post #10

Please, as an advice to general HN posters, please avoid posting marco.org links here on HN, because his sole intention is to sell his readers out more than focusing on writing. That's a fairly grande accusation, but it's justified. Do you know why is he writing about Google Reader now? Go to your HN homepage right now, as of writing this comment, the Google reader announcement has about 1700 upvotes. Ouch, that's a…

Are you completely stupid or are you just trolling us? On the off chance you're just stupid, here's some enlightenment. Marco Arment is a cofounder of hugely successful Tumblr and creator of Instapaper, both of which certainly make or made him more money than he'll ever make from ads on his blog, however popular. He's also created The Magazine, which probably makes a fair bit of cash already, and will be making more…

Pretty sure it's a troll. He knows he can get a response out of Arment (http://www.marco.org/2013/03/14/davidpayne) just as another commenter on the Verge did a while ago from a huge personal attack (http://www.marco.org/2012/05/10/crazy-comment)

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by pekk »

duaneb wrote: post #37
ChuckMcM wrote: post #17

Personally, this could be a killer use of App.net. Blend social with RSS and get something like Pandora for newsfeeds. Not sure how hard it would be to pull an RSS feed and then push that into an App.net stream, blended with some meta data on content and a machine learning algorithm which enhanced your feeds by finding similar feeds that has a high correlative match to what you read most. Just sayin'

> Blend social with RSS and get something like Pandora for newsfeeds. You might like Prismatic: http://getprismatic.com/news/home

Nope, the demanded permissions are way out of control:

* View basic information about your account

* Manage your data in Google Reader

* View your email address

* Manage your contacts

* Perform these operations when I'm not using the application

Re: Baby steps toward replacing Google Reader

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Post by pauljonas »

mstroeck wrote: post #34

I'm the project lead for Vienna, the open source RSS client for the Mac. We support Google Reader, and we want to support this: https://github.com/ViennaRSS/vienna-rss/issues/160 If you're a Cocoa developer, feel free to jump right in. If you're going to implement the server side, shoot me a note @mstroeck (app.net preferred).

I tried Vienna today -- downloaded, installed, then tapped OK on the "Google Sync" option…

…an hour later, the application still was "not responding", though the little red number circle on the dock icon continued to climb. About a half hour later with the application still in a "not responding" state, I force quit and then proceeded to delete it.

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