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Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by lucb1e »

w01fe wrote: post #36
lucb1e wrote: post #35

> Prismatic is requesting permission to: > View basic information about your account - OK > Manage your data in Google Reader - Of course. > View your email address - I get it, but I'd rather not. > Manage your contacts - What?! > Perform these operations when I'm not using the application - ... Did anyone do it and notice anything weird?

Don't worry, we're on your side :) We ask to read your contacts to help autocomplete email addresses for email shares and help you find friends on Prismatic (if you choose to do so). Last time I checked, Google didn't have a read-only contacts permission level, or we'd be using it.

Okay that makes sense, but isn't it possible to make this optional? It's not that I don't trust you in particular, but there have been a little too many leaks for me to trust anyone with my full contact list. They don't need to get spammed some day because I signed up for an alternative RSS reader and they happened to get hacked or whatever.

I don't share things by e-mail anyway; if I wanna tell anyone about something I've read I mostly use Google+ or MSN. That's why I ask if it could be made optional (you'd be the first that I know to do this, but that'd make it that much more awesome!).

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by antback »

lucb1e wrote: post #41
w01fe wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, we're on your side :) We ask to read your contacts to help autocomplete email addresses for email shares and help you find friends on Prismatic (if you choose to do so). Last time I checked, Google didn't have a read-only contacts permission level, or we'd be using it.

Okay that makes sense, but isn't it possible to make this optional? It's not that I don't trust you in particular, but there have been a little too many leaks for me to trust anyone with my full contact list. They don't need to get spammed some day because I signed up for an alternative RSS reader and they happened to get hacked or whatever. I don't share things by e-mail anyway; if I wanna tell anyone about somethin…

I agree. Sorry but I won't allow anyone to manage my contacts. This should be optional.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by NickNameNick »

bradfordcross wrote: post #23
NickNameNick wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting a 400 error when I try to complete the 'choose a username' screen. No visible reaction to pushing the continue button at all, but the error shows up in chrome's console. "Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token O"

what browser and os? does it persist?

Chrome 25 on windows 7. I just tried again from scratch, without going through the google oAuth page, and its worked this way. No idea what went wrong the first time around.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by danjessen »

w01fe wrote: post #28
pudquick wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I read from you elsewhere in these comments, though, subscribing to an RSS feed in Prismatic does not (currently) mean you will see 100% of the content in them - correct? ... If you are indeed changing it to include 100% of the feeds of my choosing, that's great to hear. What I ALWAYS want + 'a little extra I might like' is something I can appreciate.

Right on all counts. On the upside, we're smarter than an RSS reader for high-volume feeds currently, and sort things based on how much we think you'll like them (based on topics, social information, and more) rather than just by time. Support for the 100%-of-feed use case is in the works, stay tuned.

Hopefully that feature can be disabled ?!

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by vdm »

Kudos for moving on this quickly, here is my feedback.

When I clicked the OP link, I got a 'Sign up with Google Reader' link even though I have a logged-in Prismatic account already. After clicking through Google's authorize UI I received a 'Welcome to Prismatic' email so I think I might have created a dup account, but I can't tell. I would expect to be able to see my Twitter account and my Google Reader account in the same profile/settings page.

I expected a 'connect' UI like is used with OAuth on StackOverflow, alongside Twitter etc.

I think my Google Reader account will be a better source of data for Prismatic than my Twitter account. I would like to drill down to the explicit mapping inferred by Prismatic from generic 'Interest' to specific 'Feed' and be able to follow a feed ad hoc, bypassing the inference.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by rogerbinns »

616c wrote: post #11

Host your own, and support a FOSS developer by buying the mobile app on Android (what I do). http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki

I like that it actually shows the feeds and articles. So many of the other viewers out there including Prismatic seem obsessed with showing articles in rectangles as graphically as possible. 99% of the items I read are text with occasional complementary images.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by pilooch »

karpathy wrote: post #40

I used to be a huge fan of Prismatic until it mysteriously decided about a month ago that all I want to hear about on main feed is Apple, Gadgets and Social Media. My other 63 interests (including Physics/Web dev/Genomics/Machine Learning/etc...) are nowhere to be seen and I find myself having to navigate through some of them manually to see more awesome stories that somehow don't make it to my main feed. This is the…

I see you're a machine 'learnist'. If you feel like building your own 'intelligent' reader based on unsupervised learning, you can try https://xplr.com/developers/ (PM me for beta access).

We're playing a bit with news as demo, see https://xplr.com/products/illuminate/browser/

I believe there's room for more innovation, beyond the 'classic' RSS reader, without compromising on user control.

This is the reason why I'm mentioning the API above here (I'm a co-founder) as I am personally unhappy with the existing readers, though Prismatic is good (though too messy for my taste and usage).

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by chinshaw »

bradfordcross wrote: post #6
sideproject wrote: post #5

ok. I'll admit this. Though I'm sad to see GR disappearing, the primary reason for not using GR for me in the past 3 months has been because of Prismatic. I've tried a NUMBER of content aggregators, content discovery tools, social feeds (whatever you call it) because I do like finding good reads, so far I think Prismatic team has very closely 'got it'. It's by far the more accurate "we will find articles that you wou…

Awesome to hear feedback like this! We have so far to go with the product though. We can't wait to ship the next big redesign. What do you think we can do to make the experience better?

I'm not the OP but I have some stuff I want. I really like the service but don't use it that much because there isn't an Android app. Is that in the works?

As far as the website goes, the home page feels way to cluttered and it's not always clear what the elements do. For example, the purpose of the bar on the right isn't immediately obvious, and interaction with it isn't very intuitive - it looks like it scrolls vertically because of the cut off suggestion at the bottom but actually slides horizontally using buttons.

When it comes to discovering new topics I think a more interactive and transparent method than the suggestions box would be useful. I would love to have a graph/web of topics clustered around my interests that I could browse. I would also like to search for topics and see how they fit into the graph and related searches.

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