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Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by bravura »

@bradfordcross: Since you've been asking what you can do to make Prismatic better...

I want a weekly heads-up on all important news items in a particular domain. So I can make sure I'm staying on top of it.

I like to browse Prismatic daily because of the mix of recommendations relevant to my space, and fun pieces. When I skip reading Prismatic for a few days, I feel like I might have missed important news.

So essentially, I want a really heavily filtered Prismatic for a few particularly crucial topics of interest to me, that I can review weekly.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

#32

Post by dirtyaura »

Why it needs an access to "manage my contacts"?

Compared to early crazy years of Facebook apps, there has recently been a pleasant trend of apps asking just a minimum needed access rights and gradually asking for more if it needs. Now that all major platforms (Facebook, Google, Twitter, iOS) offer a pretty good way to display access rights - I think Facebook's way of showing them is the most clear of the pack - access right management seems a natural part of the application signup flow and not a chore.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by gertburger »

For the oauth login it requires the following permissions: View basic information about your account, Manage your data in Google Reader, View your email address Manage your contacts, View and manage your Google Contacts, Perform these operations when I'm not using the application

Why would it want access to view AND MANAGE my contacts? This seems a bit odd.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

#34

Post by corroded »

w01fe wrote: post #29
corroded wrote: post #26

I'm sorry, I tried this and thought it imported my google reader stuff but it didn't. Instead, it suggested articles for me to read etc and eventually I decided this is not my GR replacement. (Don't get me wrong, I'd totally use this IF I wasn't on GR. This is good for first time, but for migrating from GR, I don't think so) I wanted to delete my account since I don't plan on using it....but then there's no delete ac…

Sorry for your bad experience. The import adds both your subscriptions as well as topic feeds we think you'll be interested in based on your GR activity, so it's not going to be exactly the same content. You can remove them if you like by going from 'interests' in the home or profile header. We currently process delete account requests manually -- if you use the feedback tool within the app or email us at feedback@ge…

Thanks. No worries there :) I am not into bashing other people's hard work, but sometimes you just know it's not fit for you (case in point, mine).

I got confused the first tie with those jumping bubbles after the import as well. So I just went straight and clicked "Get Started". Anyway, I'm just saying it's not for me, but everyone, please try it first to see for yourself :) It has a neat UI and all.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

#35

Post by lucb1e »

> Prismatic is requesting permission to:

> View basic information about your account - OK

> Manage your data in Google Reader - Of course.

> View your email address - I get it, but I'd rather not.

> Manage your contacts - What?!

> Perform these operations when I'm not using the application - ...

Did anyone do it and notice anything weird?

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by w01fe »

lucb1e wrote: post #35

> Prismatic is requesting permission to: > View basic information about your account - OK > Manage your data in Google Reader - Of course. > View your email address - I get it, but I'd rather not. > Manage your contacts - What?! > Perform these operations when I'm not using the application - ... Did anyone do it and notice anything weird?

Don't worry, we're on your side :) We ask to read your contacts to help autocomplete email addresses for email shares and help you find friends on Prismatic (if you choose to do so). Last time I checked, Google didn't have a read-only contacts permission level, or we'd be using it.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

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Post by w01fe »

bravura wrote: post #31

@bradfordcross: Since you've been asking what you can do to make Prismatic better... I want a weekly heads-up on all important news items in a particular domain. So I can make sure I'm staying on top of it. I like to browse Prismatic daily because of the mix of recommendations relevant to my space, and fun pieces. When I skip reading Prismatic for a few days, I feel like I might have missed important news. So essenti…

Thanks for the feedback -- this is a great idea, and something we've been thinking about for awhile ... stay tuned :)

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

#38

Post by w01fe »

dirtyaura wrote: post #32

Why it needs an access to "manage my contacts"? Compared to early crazy years of Facebook apps, there has recently been a pleasant trend of apps asking just a minimum needed access rights and gradually asking for more if it needs. Now that all major platforms (Facebook, Google, Twitter, iOS) offer a pretty good way to display access rights - I think Facebook's way of showing them is the most clear of the pack - acces…

We ask to read your contacts to autocomplete email addresses for email shares and help you find friends on Prismatic (if you choose to do so). Last time I checked, Google didn't have a read-only contacts permission level, or we'd be using it.

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

#39

Post by w01fe »

gertburger wrote: post #33

For the oauth login it requires the following permissions: View basic information about your account, Manage your data in Google Reader, View your email address Manage your contacts, View and manage your Google Contacts, Perform these operations when I'm not using the application Why would it want access to view AND MANAGE my contacts? This seems a bit odd.

I understand your concern ... see my response here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5373701

Short answer, we don't want access to manage your contacts, there's just not a read-only option (last time I checked).

Re: Prismatic creates a special signup for Google reader users

#40

Post by karpathy »

I used to be a huge fan of Prismatic until it mysteriously decided about a month ago that all I want to hear about on main feed is Apple, Gadgets and Social Media. My other 63 interests (including Physics/Web dev/Genomics/Machine Learning/etc...) are nowhere to be seen and I find myself having to navigate through some of them manually to see more awesome stories that somehow don't make it to my main feed.

This is the problem I have with "smart" services that learn about you. They eventually start doing things you don't want them to do and you don't know how to change the behavior.

On the other hand, services like Google Reader have complete transparency. If you subscribe to a blog you really like, a new post will light up on the left and you don't have to be afraid of missing out. It places a little more burden on the user sometimes, but at least I feel that I am in control and that I know what is going on. It gives me peace of mind when I want it.

My (hopefully) constructive criticism amounts to asking for more transparency, and more user control. Find ways of being clever and impressing me, but also allow me to correct/improve or constraint you explicitly when I want to. Otherwise, keep up the great work!

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