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Re: I Resent My Cofounder

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It sounds like your under resourced... Years for achieving your goals? Time to rethink your entire organisational route.

We're not yet funded. I basically funded our business with my savings and a little client work. We're looking for a seed round on top of all this, with me doing most of the hunting.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#12
post #8

I wrote a really long winded reply from my mobile app but the app crashed. So here's a TL;DR version 1. Never dwell on number of hrs or ideas as measure of commitment. 2. She probably resents you too. Fear of vulnerability causes an absence of trust which results in reduced commitment. 3. Call it quits and build a new team where you're happy with the work ethic of your team

Thanks for taking the time to reply, twice even.

Can't say I haven't thought about #3, but I'm concerned about our customers and what I'd leave behind. I really love our business.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#13
post #7

It is natural to have week to week ebb and flow in performance but the first step to fixing it is agreeing to observe it. One solution is getting an independent party, ideally someone you both trust, and get him to review both your performances and give you each feedback on a regular basis. We do this at our start-up by doing quick review calls participated by each of the 3 founders along with a fourth independent pa…

You're right, I've thought about this a lot. I work a lot because I like it, but also because we're not in the black yet. If we were, I'd probably relax at least a bit, but I've already experienced a time when the clock ran out and the money dried up. I'm doing everything in my power to prevent it this time. I do like your idea about getting an independent party, but we're not in the same region so our mutual acquain…

"I work a lot because I like it, but also because we're not in the black yet. "

Did you address this issue with her? Maybe she doesn't feel the same urgency for profitability. If profitability is a big concern for you, communicate that

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, I've thought about this a lot. I work a lot because I like it, but also because we're not in the black yet. If we were, I'd probably relax at least a bit, but I've already experienced a time when the clock ran out and the money dried up. I'm doing everything in my power to prevent it this time. I do like your idea about getting an independent party, but we're not in the same region so our mutual acquain…

"I work a lot because I like it, but also because we're not in the black yet. " Did you address this issue with her? Maybe she doesn't feel the same urgency for profitability. If profitability is a big concern for you, communicate that

Yes, many times. She says she gets it, and says all the right things, but nothing really changes. It's almost as if her income was being subsidized. That or she's happy being broke.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#15

I'm a solo founder and I love it. I don't have the issues you have, but I do often feel the pressure to take on a co-founder just to check that box. Way back, I founded a startup with a co-founder, and it didn't work out because our commitment levels were different. Company failed for that and other reasons. But my current startup that is launching this week (PlayPozz) has an outsourced technical team of about ten pe…

For some reason, I've always felt the need to have a founder when starting a new venture, but regardless of what happens here, I do think that's the way I'll proceed next time.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#16
post #8

I wrote a really long winded reply from my mobile app but the app crashed. So here's a TL;DR version 1. Never dwell on number of hrs or ideas as measure of commitment. 2. She probably resents you too. Fear of vulnerability causes an absence of trust which results in reduced commitment. 3. Call it quits and build a new team where you're happy with the work ethic of your team

Thanks for taking the time to reply, twice even. Can't say I haven't thought about #3, but I'm concerned about our customers and what I'd leave behind. I really love our business.

Trust me. They'll live. 60/70 hrs a week plus heated debates is not healthy. You need to slow down.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I work a lot because I like it, but also because we're not in the black yet. " Did you address this issue with her? Maybe she doesn't feel the same urgency for profitability. If profitability is a big concern for you, communicate that

Yes, many times. She says she gets it, and says all the right things, but nothing really changes. It's almost as if her income was being subsidized. That or she's happy being broke.

"She says she gets it, and says all the right things, but nothing really changes."

If you have no reason to believe the situation is going to change going forward, then now's the time to cut the losses and move on. Find someone else or forge along by yourself.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#18
post #7

It is natural to have week to week ebb and flow in performance but the first step to fixing it is agreeing to observe it. One solution is getting an independent party, ideally someone you both trust, and get him to review both your performances and give you each feedback on a regular basis. We do this at our start-up by doing quick review calls participated by each of the 3 founders along with a fourth independent pa…

You're right, I've thought about this a lot. I work a lot because I like it, but also because we're not in the black yet. If we were, I'd probably relax at least a bit, but I've already experienced a time when the clock ran out and the money dried up. I'm doing everything in my power to prevent it this time. I do like your idea about getting an independent party, but we're not in the same region so our mutual acquain…

Coming from a similar background. I am that guy who thinks about my start-up 24x7, more than my other 2 founders. I've also worked along my cofounder at my last company where not all went well so some of those feelings carry over(and I have to be mindful of it!). Also, I've realized that I also have crazy downtimes or crashes that are bigger than them. In those times, I appreciate the stability and the calm in the other founders. So I'd challenge you to make a list of positive characteristics in your partner that aren't necessarily in you.

Honestly I think a lot of your issues might be with not being in the same room. I know one of our founders' recently spent a week away and it was pretty evident that things were getting uncomfortable.

We didn't have much resistance. If anything, this is good because doing a start-up is scary enough and doing these calls helps build confidence and reduce self-doubt. And you are not constantly second guessing about what other partners' feel about the other because those feelings are expected to be shared on a regular basis in a constructive manner.

On one of our very first calls, I was called out for being overtly negative. Of course that made me even more defensive in the moment. But that evening I took a step back, realized I was kind of at fault(even if my concerns were genuine) and wrote a plan and shared with the team to get me to a point where my attitude doesn't come in the way of airing genuine concerns.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#19
Are you sure your resentment is really frustration at her and not frustration at the state of the business? Your lack of salary or funding? Or how difficult you are finding it to reach customers?

It sounds like she is putting in the equivalent of a fulltime job. So while its easy to transfer your frustrations onto her ("these problems would be solved if you put in 70 hours like me"), you might want to be careful you aren't giving in to wishful thinking. Certainly, if you are putting in 70 hours and that isn't solving these issues asking her to do the same is not necessarily the right approach.

You need to be able to think clearly about why you are feeling what you are feeling, and look outside yourself to figure out if the demands you are putting on yourself and other people are really reasonable.

Re: I Resent My Cofounder

#20
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, many times. She says she gets it, and says all the right things, but nothing really changes. It's almost as if her income was being subsidized. That or she's happy being broke.

"She says she gets it, and says all the right things, but nothing really changes." If you have no reason to believe the situation is going to change going forward, then now's the time to cut the losses and move on. Find someone else or forge along by yourself.

This is where a 3rd party helps. It is easy for her to argue that you are getting caught up in emotion and it is hard for you to deliver judgement without some emotion.
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