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This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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> a 24-year-old software engineer > ... > Soylent contains all of the nutritive components of a balanced diet What utter bollocks. We're (as in, scientists studying nutrition and how utterly wrong food industry has gotten that in the 20th and early 21st century) finally starting to get our collective heads around the benefits of whole foods vs. highly processed foods, and just how badly our bodies deal with the latte…

Do you have any actual evidence that ingesting all nutrients known to be essential in powder form will lead to a nutritional deficiency or was your fallacious appeal to authority your whole argument?

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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I saved for ~18 months, then spent two years driving from Alaska to Argentina, because I wanted to. I blogged the whole time at http://theroadchoseme.com All the financial details are at http://theroadchoseme.com/the-price-of-adventure You'll be interested to note I only spent $1200/mo on the road, which is almost exactly what I was spending month-to-month to go to work every day. I'm currently back working as a Soft…

Are you a full time employee? I'd be interested in knowing what your current employer thinks about you have a scheduled departure date that far in the future.

Yep. They don't know I plan to leave.

As I said elsewhere, they have fired a lot of loyal people in last ~18 months, so I have no problem with leaving. We're all free to leave anytime we want, be if for a different position, start our own business, or to go traveling, or anything at all.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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From the "recipe"[1]: This mechanism can also metabolize protein and fat, but the brain can only use Glucose for energy. In fact, the brain uses 25% of the body's glucose, though it accounts for only 2% of its weight. This would have me concerned if I were considering this. While 100% true, it neglects the entire ketone metabolic pathway[2], which the brain will use fine instead of glucose. If this something big like…

Those low carb diets are also diets that reduce your ability to engage in strenuous activities, and cause muscle wasting. The idea is to be healthy, not to lose weight or treat epilepsy.

and cause muscle wasting

Low carb diets do not cause muscle wasting - at least if one continues to exercise.

I.e: Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1373635/

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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You sound like an industry-insider explaining why a new startup will fail. "They're too young!" "They don't have the experience" "We've devoted our LIVES to figuring this out, one kid in his basement didn't do it in a few weeks!" Etc etc No offense but we've heard the exact same thing about every successful idea. And what's more: People look at the human GI totally wrong anyway. They think, what can I put in to get t…

They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. - Carl Sagan Sure, he could be on to something. But we also need an enormous amount of skepticism when evaluating it, just as we do when evaluating any large claim. What pings my radar is that we're still trying to understand how our body processes "whole food" as opposed to vitamins in supp…

If only they were as reasonable stating this as you.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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>Soylent contains all of the nutritive components of a balanced diet, but with just a third of the calories... This worries me. It's not a misquote, either. From his blog^0 : >...I get all the nutrition and energy I need with about 1/3 the calories the average American consumes... The average American consumes 2,757 calories^2 . There's a term called the Basal Metabolic Rate. It is the amount of calories your body ne…

Actually there is a lot of evidence to show that calorie restriction can lead to longer lifespans. I'm not a nutritionist, doctor or someone who is on a calorie restriction diet (though I'm sure I eat less than the average American). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction

assertTrue() recently did a series on this. If you're interested in this kind of thing, it's worth a read.

Here's one of the posts (ignore the linkbait headline) - http://asserttrue.blogspot.com/2013/03/how-to-live-30-longer...

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Eating to me is a leisure activity, like going to the movies, but I don't want to go to the movies three times a day. For anyone that doesn't understand that statement, I recommend taking a few years off work, where you spend your time getting up early every day, doing something all day (hiking, walking, gardening, building, whatever) and go to bed late in the evening (i.e. Full days of activities you want to be doin…

I don't know what your situation is, but personally, being married, I love spending time cooking with my wife. For example, last night we spent 2 hours cooking crab cakes, chocolate souffle, kale chips... it was fantastic. We both enjoy one another's company while cooking. For some people, it may seem like a waste of time, but for me, it's a way to connect to other people.

I don't think there is any argument that cooking can be a pleasant activity. However, the truth is that's the only option because we need to eat every day.

Tonight I can get home from work and spend time with my partner cooking and it'll be great. And after work tomorrow, if we want to spend time together, we can cook or eat out. And the day after that... more cooking.

The opportunity here is not that we'll never cook again but, instead, that maybe we can do something else together once in a while.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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If it were possible to remain healthy long term, I'd totally sign up for a pill or drink that took a minute or two to consume and contained everything that we need to survive. I might not do it every day because there are some foods that I really like, but generally I don't enjoy eating and find it irritating that I have to spend so much of my life doing it.

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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> a 24-year-old software engineer > ... > Soylent contains all of the nutritive components of a balanced diet What utter bollocks. We're (as in, scientists studying nutrition and how utterly wrong food industry has gotten that in the 20th and early 21st century) finally starting to get our collective heads around the benefits of whole foods vs. highly processed foods, and just how badly our bodies deal with the latte…

But that won't make up for the glop's likely deficiencies. Exactly. Yeah, he seems to have done a pretty good job of making sure his glop includes all the things we know we need. It includes exactly zero of the things we don't know we need.

What makes you think there are things we don't know we need?

Re: This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Everyone in this thread is looking at this the wrong way. I'm surprised HN is reacting in such a negative way.

If his diet is unbalanced, it's an issue with the official daily requirements being wrong.

If he's planing on marketing his innovative product, it's a failure of marketing.

Either way he's not very liable of failure.

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In my personal experience, optimal nutrition creates what I would, in jest, refer to as "superpowers". When I compare my mental and physical state under optimal conditions to under poor conditions, there is a dramatic difference in me. This, to me, is also why for many athletes, their performance doesn't begin on the field but rather it begins with their food intake. I don't trust the data he provided because it isn'…

Disagree. Many elite athletes are not super scientific about their food choices [1]. Instead they eat what they crave. The human body is pretty good at figuring out what it needs nutritionally. That being said, there is a lot that is important off of the field (e.g. sleep, stretching, etc). Just nutrition is fairly low on that list. [1] http://www.active.com/triathlon/ironman/Articles/Nutrition-T...

As much respect as I have for triathletes, they aren't really representative. Food choices are incredibly important for athletes in weight class-limited sports (eg wrestling) or where muscular hypertrophy is important (eg powerlifting). Gymnastics is another one. Believe me when I tell you that coaches have diet absolutely dialed in for many classes of athlete.
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