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Re: University of Reddit

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There was quite some controversy about [1] this C++ course. It supposedly was a collection of bad practices and an all round bad way to learn C++. [1] http://ureddit.com/class/23620/introduction-to-c----a-video-...

/r/programming thread

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/197dn1/introduc...

Re: University of Reddit

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I hope archive.org or similar will find a useful/successful way of crawling this. Such resources should be given the durability of independent redundancy (where permissible).

Most of the content listed on UReddit is actually housed on the teacher's own site or subreddit. We are really just an aggregate to help them organize and reach more people. Plus they have complete control and ownership of their content. Unfortunately our non-profit Open Compass hit a delay as we were hoping KickStarter would work out for us.

Thanks for the reply. :-)

I understand that. What I meant is that I hope those resources are archived. And, as part of that, perhaps archive.org could target UReddit as a... source of targets, I guess.

I've been around long enough to have repeatedly experienced such resources disappearing. A professor changes institutions. Infrastructure is reorganized. Materials are deliberately removed, but the earlier license would allow independent copies to continue to exist and proliferate.

That's what I'm after.

Re: University of Reddit

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Most of the content listed on UReddit is actually housed on the teacher's own site or subreddit. We are really just an aggregate to help them organize and reach more people. Plus they have complete control and ownership of their content. Unfortunately our non-profit Open Compass hit a delay as we were hoping KickStarter would work out for us.

Thanks for the reply. :-) I understand that. What I meant is that I hope those resources are archived. And, as part of that, perhaps archive.org could target UReddit as a... source of targets, I guess. I've been around long enough to have repeatedly experienced such resources disappearing. A professor changes institutions. Infrastructure is reorganized. Materials are deliberately removed, but the earlier license woul…

You are right, and unfortunately that has already happened. I have become more diligent about helping teachers who launched their class one or more years ago to host their content in other formats, or transfer them to PDFs. In some cases I was even going to the Google cache version, transferring it to a free blog, and making it available.

One of our main needs with Open Compass was the expenses that came with running servers all the time, and hosting said content. We did not officially define how that would work yet, but ideally the content would be housed in Open Compass, but the teacher still retains all rights/control. At least that way if their domain expired this would be less of an issue. Sadly we're just a very small team, and we are the sole investors.

Re: University of Reddit

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There was quite some controversy about [1] this C++ course. It supposedly was a collection of bad practices and an all round bad way to learn C++. [1] http://ureddit.com/class/23620/introduction-to-c----a-video-...

/r/programming thread http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/197dn1/introduc...

Yes thank you, this was the thread I was referring to.

Re: University of Reddit

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StackExchange sites are meant to be for questions and answers, they aren't comparable.

Humans aren't APIs. If observing Stack and a whole heap of other sites (even apps and gadgets) have ever taught me anything, it's that your creation is what your users take it to be. Not what you originally intended. I mean sure, the "nudge" method works by locking, deleting even outright banning, but in the end, people will do what comes naturally. It's like trying to make water flow upwards on a waterfall. The natu…

No, what I meant was that University of Reddit is not an alternative to StackExchange. University of Reddit is for learning new skills, kind of like Khan Academy, Coursera, Udacity, or a real University. StackExchange sites are for solving problems, I very much doubt they will ever become anything like that regardless of natural evolution. I have seen plenty of interesting discussions closed on StackExchange and whether or not that's a good thing is besides the point. The fundamental purpose of the two services is not comparable.

It's called the StackExchange Network by the way, not Stack.

Re: University of Reddit

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Humans aren't APIs. If observing Stack and a whole heap of other sites (even apps and gadgets) have ever taught me anything, it's that your creation is what your users take it to be. Not what you originally intended. I mean sure, the "nudge" method works by locking, deleting even outright banning, but in the end, people will do what comes naturally. It's like trying to make water flow upwards on a waterfall. The natu…

No, what I meant was that University of Reddit is not an alternative to StackExchange. University of Reddit is for learning new skills, kind of like Khan Academy, Coursera, Udacity, or a real University. StackExchange sites are for solving problems, I very much doubt they will ever become anything like that regardless of natural evolution. I have seen plenty of interesting discussions closed on StackExchange and whet…

Yes, by Stack* I was referring to StackExchange's sites.

Re: University of Reddit

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> I mean sure, the "nudge" method works by locking, deleting even outright banning, but in the end, people will do what comes naturally. Alternatively, you can just give people a place to do what comes naturally, so that it doesn't clutter their "productive effort." Talk pages on wikis, for example.

That's true. And I guess that's what "Meta" was supposed to be, but there's still a lot of the same handicaps applied there and "polling" questions (whatever that means today vs. tomorrow) get voted down to obvlivion. E.G : http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/138411/why-are-const... So even in a place that's talk "of" the place still isn't safe to talk of.

I think the problem there, is that meta.stackoverflow is still considered by the StackOverflow guys to be an instance of type QuestionAnswerSite. Which means that it's a place to ask objective questions about StackOverflow, not really a place to "talk about things."

What they really need is forum.stackoverflow.com. Or, more likely, given the leadership, discourse.stackoverflow.com.

Re: University of Reddit

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How do they ensure that teachers know what they're talking about? There's a lot of topics I can think of where someone can easily sound like they are an expert, but instead just have an amateur understanding of it. Any kind of topic involving some amount of subjectivity would be hard to ensure that best practices are being taught.

Having worked in higher ed for 10+ years, let me tell you, in a lot of disciplines, they don't vet as much as you might think. Certainly, high profile/cost courses with lots of interest in teaching them are, but the big money makers such as con-ed, distance learning and apprenticeship take the most convenient person available and throw them in, often at the last minute with zero preparation. I don't see how this diff…

"I don't see how this differs from ureddit."

$80,000 waste of time versus a much cheaper but still waste of time?

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