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Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by jonathanjaeger »

moe wrote: post #32
cscheid wrote: post #5

Aside from this being about design and not HTML5, is anyone else not surprised they didn't include "550 social +1, like, tweet, twat buttons"? Look at that website: there's a social banner, a social footer, a social sidebar, animated gifs for ads. Make that 15 lousy web design trends.

I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? I tried a few times but the experience has always been so terrible and inconsistent that I've long reverted to simply sharing the good old copy/paste way.

I use the tweet buttons but often remove extraneous info or put what I would normally write in my tweet but keep the link. If I like an article enough to tweet it, why not add some social proof by boosting their tweet button count one higher? I think that's fair.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by mikeyouse »

charonn0 wrote: post #80

I really hope the trend of using lightbox-like login popups (e.g. [1]) goes away very soon; they tend to break Firefox's password manager and add absolutely nothing of value. [1]: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/charonn0/vtlogin_zpsb...

Not to mention they're impossible to use on a mobile device..

They frequently omit the little 'x' in the corner to close them out, they're rarely responsive, and they break zooming / scrolling.

What a terrible little login mechanism.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by pasbesoin »

driverdan wrote: post #64
jakub_g wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This should be regulated somehow (yeah, I know, I sound like an 19th century guy). But probably lobbyist won't give up on that easily. I have disabled all that crap in my adblock, but there are millions of people who are not that savvy / aware etc. My friend from Germany told me that in some (but not all) the pages, there are dummy social buttons loaded by default, you have to "enable" them. Try any article at [1]. I…

Disable 3rd party cookies, tracking woes averted.

As a simple example, the hit gives them your IP address. Often, this is all they need in order to identify you. (My IP address is technically dynamic, but remains fixed for weeks at a time. And... even if I use a different browser to sign into Facebook, they still have that IP address as well as the relevant timeframe for my possession of it.

I could spin up a VM and route the FB or non-FB traffic through a proxy, but I haven't reached that point, yet. (Probably, foolishly and to my detriment...)

P.S. In other words, state is already stored on their servers, not (or rather, in addition to) your browser.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by nivla »

moe wrote: post #32
cscheid wrote: post #5

Aside from this being about design and not HTML5, is anyone else not surprised they didn't include "550 social +1, like, tweet, twat buttons"? Look at that website: there's a social banner, a social footer, a social sidebar, animated gifs for ads. Make that 15 lousy web design trends.

I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? I tried a few times but the experience has always been so terrible and inconsistent that I've long reverted to simply sharing the good old copy/paste way.

As a visitor, no I never use them and I seem to think no one will want to use them. However, as a webmaster, I prove myself wrong, a lot of people do use them and they do seriously become part of your site's daily traffic. So in other words, if the snake oil sells, you better carry them in your store!

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by yourcelf »

moe wrote: post #32
cscheid wrote: post #5

Aside from this being about design and not HTML5, is anyone else not surprised they didn't include "550 social +1, like, tweet, twat buttons"? Look at that website: there's a social banner, a social footer, a social sidebar, animated gifs for ads. Make that 15 lousy web design trends.

I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? I tried a few times but the experience has always been so terrible and inconsistent that I've long reverted to simply sharing the good old copy/paste way.

Emphatically: yes. Those who collect stats on them find that they contribute a substantial portion of shares.[1] People rant against them often, probably because they wish they weren't effective, and they might not personally click them. But others do.

[1] http://www.luigimontanez.com/2012/actually-social-media-butt...

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by eksith »

kabdib wrote: post #20

Warning: Some of the linked-to sites are hosting malware. Huh . . . is this another bad HTML5 trend? :-)

Confirmed it happened to me as well..

Specifically on the "Dubious animation" section kikk.be ( DO NOT CLICK ) :

http://kikk.be/2012/home.htm

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by pbosko »

dreen wrote: post #76
jakub_g wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This should be regulated somehow (yeah, I know, I sound like an 19th century guy). But probably lobbyist won't give up on that easily. I have disabled all that crap in my adblock, but there are millions of people who are not that savvy / aware etc. My friend from Germany told me that in some (but not all) the pages, there are dummy social buttons loaded by default, you have to "enable" them. Try any article at [1]. I…

Learn to block Javascript selectively, for instance using NoScript you can block JS from Facebook unless you actually are on a facebook.com domain. This gets rid of the annoying social button functionality.

May the Ghostery extension be with you.

Re: Lousy web design trends that are making a comeback due to HTML5

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Post by planckscnst »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #54
moe wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? I tried a few times but the experience has always been so terrible and inconsistent that I've long reverted to simply sharing the good old copy/paste way.

> I keep wondering: Does anyone actually use these social buttons? The suppliers of said social buttons do; every time you see one while you're logged into FB / G+ / Twitter, a hit of you visiting that site is registered at said parties, and they can all, thanks to the prevalence of these sharing buttons, track your internet usage.

The RequestPolicy plugin fixes that.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/requestpolicy...

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