Does anyone know which American Apparel shirt these use? Specifically, the fabric? 100% cotton, or 50/50 poly/cotton blend?
It appears to be 100% cotton [1] (linked from the "Launch a Campaign page [2]).
Official Hacker News T-Shirt
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I am a huge proponent for constructive criticism. It is genuinely helpful when I receive it so I attempt to give it as much as possible in 'Show HN' and similar posts. Most of the time my comments get a couple up votes and left in the middle of the thread. Sometimes the founder responds and we have a little conversation that is hopefully helpful to both of us. The one time I've ever posted a comment that could come o…
I guess you could always have deleted your comment, if you thought it was unintentionally harmful to the discussion.
I didn't think it was necessarily harmful to the discussion, but it wasn't as constructive as other posts in the thread.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does that sort of thing bug you on some level Paul? I always had you mentally as pretty stoically philosophically detached from that sort of thing. But I've seen a couple of your comments where you seem genuinely bothered when people are catty or mean to others you care about. Would love to hear your take on how you mentally approach that sort of thing in general.
Complicated question. Dismissive comments about new things bother me partly because there's an asymmetry that seems unfair. It's so risky to create something new, and so easy to dismiss it. At their worst, the people making such comments are like schoolyard bullies picking on someone who tries to do something different. This particular case is very mild-- more confused than dismissive really. It just struck me as fun…
Have you considered hiring someone full time just to improve Hacker News? You have built an incredibly valuable forum, and there is no other place on the internet like it. But the quality of the comments is definitely degrading over time. I worry that if serious time is not dedicated to fixing the problem Hacker News will go the way of usenet.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe you should allow downvoting for everyone then. I'm more likely to downvote a dismissive reply then I am to upvote every positive reply to overtake it. And on the mention of dismissive comments: as a frequent visitor I feel emotionally safer just reading and not posting... so if there is a karma threshold for allowing downvotes, I doubt I will ever hit it.
The problem is that people would abuse the downvote button and use it as a representation of "I disagree with you" is read of "this comment adds no value to the conversation."
Disallow both up and down vote buttons for the top comment. The top few comments will rise together, taking turns having vote buttons or not.
Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt
#235I don't really get this T, i understand its going for minimalism, but would someone who frequents HN recognize it if they did not already know its affiliation?(i wouldn't) & if the answer is no, then whats the point of the T? Edit for clarity: Not knocking the cause, it is great. Just the design really, maybe im missing something.
I kind of wish this were the top comment. It would be humorously appropriate if the top comment on the thread about the official HN t-shirt were the traditional nitpicking/point-missing type that is so commonly the top comment when people launch new technology here.
What is the point that is being missed?
I thought the design was pretentious minimalism. It's minimal for the sake of it, not minimal because it's distilling the essence of something. The essence of HN is not the orange and grey colors. It's really hard to connect the shirt to HN when I look at it. The essence of HN to me is karma, usernames, YC, up/downvotes, programming, America, internet companies, drama, PG love / hate. Just printing something like "100 points" on the grey background would have made it much more wearable.
Also, if what you want is an appropriately critical, non-cynical community, you need to embody those qualities yourself. There's not much lower you can go than taking passive aggressive swipes at random posters. If you're the leader of a community, and you don't like the community, it's your responsibility to do something about it.
Here's one idea: an official recommendation from you of upvotes for thoughtful replies (even in the case of disagreement), and downvotes for replies that don't add to the conversation.
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If people want more like that, you can find them at http://hexu.al/
That is awesome. I am so glad I made it this far down the comments to see this link. I know it sounds sarcastic with so much enthusiasm but it isn't. This is the kind of stuff that I like to find. Better when it comes from HN.
Why does HTML think "chucknorris" is a color?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8318911/why-does-html-thi...
Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt
#237If I saw someone wearing this t-shirt, I wouldn't know that it was HN-related. But wearing the t-shirt below, I have occasionally bumped into other people "in the know": http://sdf.org/store/shop.cgi?3;sdf10 Plus the design is way cooler.
I dont really get why people want the shirt to be recognisable. To me it seems that only super brands will get a huge recognition, other brands will be left in an equally puzzling world. Instead I prefer tees that trigger intrigue and sometimes awesome conversation. I have the 20th anniversary SDF tee, in four years of wearing it I have added a score of users to the service. Even once someone saw the DEC terminal and…
> I dont really get why people want the shirt to be recognisable.
That's kind of the core concept of putting something with any sort of meaning on a t-shirt.
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I mean no offense, and I realize that this is your site; but I really think jug6ernaut's comment added far more value than your response. I don't think jug6ernaut missed the point whatsoever, and I wouldn't characterize him as nit-picking either: The question of who is expected to understand the t-shirt and what its point is (as compared to an unbranded t-shirt) are perfectly reasonable. Personally I see nothing wron…
I feel like I'm trapped in an HN parody. It's precisely because I want HN to be a site where people engage in meaningful discussion that I try to discourage people from upvoting the first dismissive comment they come across. Even discourage is probably too strong a word though. I feel like someone standing in the surf, trying to hold back a breaking wave with his hand. (I didn't answer his question because other user…
I feel like I'm trapped in an HN parody.
Congratulations! We have a winner.
You have just won first place in the crowd sourced competition for the front of V2.0 of the official Hacker News Tshirt.
Honorable mention:
Wear something people want.
Correlation != clothesation.
Fuck. That. Shirt.
Take off this shirt and get back to work.
Shirt early. Shirt often.
Made from 100% down (votes).
I clicked "threads" and got this shirt.
RSS (Real Soft Shirt)
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe you should allow downvoting for everyone then. I'm more likely to downvote a dismissive reply then I am to upvote every positive reply to overtake it. And on the mention of dismissive comments: as a frequent visitor I feel emotionally safer just reading and not posting... so if there is a karma threshold for allowing downvotes, I doubt I will ever hit it.
The problem is that people would abuse the downvote button and use it as a representation of "I disagree with you" is read of "this comment adds no value to the conversation."
Even with the current restrictions people still use it quite extensively as a "I disagree" button.
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Like I said, the original comment is really more confused than dismissive. And I do feel kind of bad for making fun of the guy. I should have known that saying I wished it was the top comment might make it so. You're mistaken about the design though. It's both funny to make the design so minimalistic, and yet simultaneously a pretty bold assertion of brand power. And since we don't want HN to grow fast, we don't need…
Well, there you have it. The original comment prompted a large discussion, eventually leading to further clarification of the meaning of the design itself. I don't see what's wrong with that; conversations wouldn't be very interesting at all if everyone unilaterally agreed with each other.
More like I wasted a lot of time spelling out something that was already obvious. This is a bug in forums, not a feature, and one that has bitten me many times. You can't be concise on forums, because if you leave any possible room for misinterpretation, someone will reply with it.