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Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

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Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

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post #55

So it's a $10 elm327 ? http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=elm327&_sacat=0 With a Torque clone? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torq...

I'm a user of Torque - I think I'm with you on this one, not many people of aware of apps and devices that can communicate with their cars, which is why the niche for a device like Automatic exists, I guess.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#202
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understand it, no. ODBII is a read-only data port that surfaces information about the state of your car. I don't believe it lets you enter commands. That being said, there have been man vulnerabilities in car software which is all proprietary and hasn't undergone any public review, so I guess it is possible.

OBD-II isn't completely read-only. I mean at the very least it is used to control car keys. I know that because MANY cars are being stolen locally via the keys being reset using the OBD-II port. They target particular models of a car. They drive around, find that car/model, then use a slim jim to open the door, plug into the OBD-II port, and reset the key to one in their possession - then they can just drive the car…

There's an article about this here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/17/bmw_car_theft_hack/

(Apparently it is particularly straightforward on recentish BMWs, because the alarm has a dead area that allows a thief to gain access to the OBD port undetected.)

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#203
post #99

This is a great start to what I hope will be an awesome product. One of the other commenters mentioned fleet/enterprise customers -- let me raise my hand (as one of those customers) and say how SORELY needed this sort of approach to tech is in the fleet space. I actually predict (hope?) this will take off more on the business side than the consumer side. Here's the problem: Fleet managers (that is, people who are res…

Teslas Model S does 1, 2 and 3 out of the box and offers you a REST api to automate it. This stuff should just be standard issue in this day and age. (I thought the OBD port is decidedly "read-only"? Given how easy access is mandated by law.)

Writing stuff over OBD is actually mandated by law, including writing new keys - making it possible to "hot-wire" a modern car even though it has immobilizer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4217171

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#204
post #200

I am really excited about this product, but had a couple of questions: 1. Will this be able to connect to more than one phone without significant reconfigurations? My wife and I own one car. It would be great to swap which phone to connect to depending on who is driving. 2. Will this need a tethering plan (or a jailbreak) for Automatic to use my iPhone's data plan? Since AT&T/Verizon charge extra for a tethering plan…

I can't imagine it would need a tethering plan. The device should be almost exclusively 1 way (to the phone) except for updates.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#205
post #88

Does this interact with door locks and car alarms at all? Is that even possible? At least once a week I find myself walking back to my car to make sure I hit the car alarm. I would definitely pay to solve that problem. Getting an iPhone app for my home security system has already saved me a lot of grief.

Looks like such a thing might be possible. This thread seems to indicate someone was able to mimic door (un)lock codes via the CAN bus.

http://www.mp3car.com/engine-management-obd-ii-engine-diagno...

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#206
Pre-ordered. Way too cool! Sort of like a pedometer for your car (in that you get quick feedback on things, etc).

Our Volkswagon dealership was going to charge me $110 to find out why we had a check engine light. I didn't know this is all they were doing. But thankfully our car was Certified so they waived it.

Looking forward to fun with this little device.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#208

$70 is crazy. For $20 I bought from www.carcarecheck.com and get OBD2 + a year's membership + their beta. They do real time diagnostics + crash notification = Much better deal.

Oh yeah, and they're shipping to Canada + worldwide. Again, much better deal.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#210

Lesson for startups here: There are tons of devices/apps that do exactly what this does already. What's the difference? Automatic has great design, snappy domain name, and most importantly mass market positioning. These had traditionally been targeted towards gear heads, but Automatic smartly positioned it to be something mass market (gas mileage, etc...)

Could you give an example or two of their best competitor?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5362802
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