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Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

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Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#111
post #43

I would label this as "Mint.com for your Car". And along with that, I'm sure your data will be collected, analyzed, and sold. I imagine they'll eventually partner with insurance companies too and these stats will influence your rates. Companies like Progressive are already doing this. Don't get me wrong though. I'm not saying any of this is wrong or bad. I'm just trying to imagine what the bigger picture here is for…

If the service turns out to actually be usefil, I hope they will consider charging money for it in lieu of spiriting away my personal information as you suggest.

It's not free, it costs $70.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#112
post #78
post #9

Wow I had an idea similar to this back in college, couldn't get any co-founders interested in doing a proper startup sadly! iPhone accessory manufacturer had a smartphone-OBD-II product called CarTrip which they discontinued: http://www.griffintechnology.com/blog/new/cartrip-and-cleand... As others have noted, you can buy the hardware yourself for pretty cheap: http://dx.com/p/obdii-bluetooth-car-diagnostic-cable-bla…

Last I looked, none of these were iPhone compatible, as they were Bluetooth Serial profile (SPP), which isn't supported for app use. This may have changed, so for now the conventional ELM### devices are Android/Jailbreak only. As an iOS user, this alone makes me interested in Automatic's product.

The Pebble smart watch uses Bluetooth Serial Profile.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#113
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could put it in a low power sleep mode, and wake up once ever x seconds to check if the engine is on. You could run something like this for months/years on a car battery.

Then you have a tradeoff: if you don't wake up frequently enough, you could conceivably drive for a good distance before noticing.

Something like every 5 to 10 seconds would work fine. The point is this is a solved problem for embedded hardware.

The company rep said in a previous reply that it consumes < 1 mA when the ignition is off, that's good enough.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#114
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can read the code but that doesn't give you much to work with. You won't be able to clear the code and you will have to pay for the replacement parts and undertake the repairs yourself. I'm not sure what the situation is in the US but here in the UK, if you took your car to a mechanic purely for the sake of reading the code then it would only cost about £50.

According to the video you can clear the code, the example if if the code reports "Loose gas cap".

Clearing the code is a very standard feature of any OBD reader.

It does not mean you get to pass your next inspection. The computer will know it was reset and tell the inspector's computer when it was done. You have to drive ~50/100 miles after resetting for your inspection to be legit. If the problem is still there, it will pop back up.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#116
First of all, congrats on the launch guys!

There are several people within this space and going beyond the fact that, they’ve got a nice generic .com (important for this type of product) which the public can easily remember they actually have an interesting product which, so far appears better executed than the others in this space. As well as that they also have an interesting team behind them as well for instance their CEO Thejo Kote, was previously a founder of NextDrop[1] which provides real value to people in India by informing them when nearby water is available (In case you’re not aware of this, despite having water pipes to them, water in India is only available for a few hours (usually once or twice a week) at a time and they have no way of knowing when that time actually is).

The product is useful for some of the reasons listed on their website such as the Crash Alert, Engine Health, Where You Parked etc. Although the biggest interest they will receive is through, external parties such as Rental Companies and Car Insurance providers etc (In otherwords, I predict their market is far bigger on the business than the Consumer side although, in some instances they overlap). The Car Insurance feature may actually become their biggest ‘feature’ for consumers in the future going forward “With Automatic you can get an Engine Health Check, Remember Where You Parked, In The Event of a Crash Inform the Right People and more importantly save $100’s on your Car Insurance!”

For instance, in the UK there are a lot of car insurance providers who give discounts to drivers who get a telematics policy aka install a “black box” within their car (something similar to Automatic without the additional features). These telematics policies in the UK are offered in 3 categories (the Behaviour-Based is the most common):

- Curfew-Based Policies – if you don’t drive between 11pm – 5am you get a discount

- Low Mileage Policies

- Behaviour-Based Policies (which Automatic does with their “Drive Score” points system) which considers how will you corner, brake and speed etc so the better you drive your insurance becomes cheaper, you drive badly you get penalised with higher rates etc.

[1] http://www.nextdrop.org

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#117
post #46

Wait, so this 69$ little contraption can read the code behind a check engine light? That's $100 in savings that would otherwise go to the Car Mechanic Mafia. Pre-ordered.

Many shops will give you the code free of charge. It's up to you to take the codes and diagnose it. It's not always easy.

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#118
post #58
post #42

The Automatic Link includes a built-in accelerometer that can detect many types of crashes. Automatic uses your phone's data connection to immediately report the crash to 911 with your name, location, and vehicle description. Now this fascinates me. I wonder what parameters are required to trigger the automatic emergency notification.

And how is it reported to 911? Does Automatic have someone manually call it in? I didn't think 911 had an api that you could report stuff through.

Ford Sync and OnStar somehow already do this. I'm just guessing, but it probably just makes a phone call like "Air bags deployed at xxx lat yyy long location. This has been an automated call."

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#119

Does Automatic impact my phone's battery life? ... more or less: no Next section: Does Automatic charge a monthly fee? No, all you need is the Automatic Link and a smartphone with an active data plan . From my experience that is exactly what kills 99% of smartphone batteries...

Simply having a [paid for, up-to-date, active] data plan on your phone kills the battery?

Re: Automatic: Your Smart Driving Assistant

#120
post #88

Does this interact with door locks and car alarms at all? Is that even possible? At least once a week I find myself walking back to my car to make sure I hit the car alarm. I would definitely pay to solve that problem. Getting an iPhone app for my home security system has already saved me a lot of grief.

OnStar offers that. Not sure if it's able to be added to your vehicle, but I can lock/unlock/start/trigger alarm/etc. my car from my iPhone.
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