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Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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This article is garbage. It can be boiled down to one sentence: "if working from home makes me happy at the cost of productivity, forcing me to come into the office just because it's more productive is the moral equivalent of requiring me to take Adderall." To which the appropriate response is: "bullshit". Requiring someone to take physically harmful and addictive drugs is not even remotely in the same galaxy as requ…

I agree that you get paid to be productive, not happy. However, companies should care a great deal about happiness. Guess where unhappy, highly productive employees go to work? At your competitors.

But the stipulated scenario is not about highly productive employees. The author is saying that even if he's less productive, he thinks that he should be allowed to work at home.

Obviously, "less productive" is an implicit comparison with some base level of productivity, and we don't know what that level of productivity is. I think that the author implies that he thinks his base level of productivity is "high enough." On the other hand, reading between the lines, his coworkers may think that his base level of productivity is "not actually all that high." And we don't know how much less "less" is.

If an employer has a choice between "happy, unproductive employee" and "unhappy, productive employee," I'll suggest that the rational approach is to get "unhappy, productive employee." In that scenario, you'll get useful work out of the person until they quit, and then you'll have another chance to hire someone who's happy and productive. In the happy, unproductive scenario, that person is a drain on your resources until you fire them, which is inherently more expensive than someone quitting, and often more of a morale hit than an unhappy person quitting is.

(Any real scenario will be more complex than the previous paragraph).

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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I don't know if I get more or less done when I work from home, but I do know that when I have down time at home, I find myself doing things I needed to do anyways (e.g. laundry, dishes, etc.) and that makes me feel better. While at work, I end up reading a bunch of Hacker News articles I don't really care about just because I'm stuck or bored. I also find myself working a little later when at home since I don't need…

This is huge for me. It weighs on me mentally when I am at work during a slow period adhering to a "butts in seats" rule, trying to find things to do or articles to read to pass the time while at home I have a sink full of dirty dishes and a laundry hamper full of dirty clothes. Then I feel guilty or stressed when I leave the office for not feeling like I then have enough time to interact with my family, decompress from work and actually do my household chores!

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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It's a great analogy! However, I would argue that one can be as productive working at home as working at the office, sometimes even be more productive. Little things that I can do at home that I can't do at the office (ie. Nap) help to focus better. It just a personal experience but it might be true for other people as well.

I'll share my dirty secret with you - if I'm really worn out during the day at work, I've done a 15 minute nap in my car. At some point I realize that I'm not being productive at all and would space out anyway at my desk, better to kill 15 minutes and come back refreshed. YMMV depending on your parking location. I park in underground parking that makes for a comfortable nap. Just make sure not to park in front of the…

Very interesting... too bad that I don't drive to work :(

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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It's kind of what I expected, but all the comments here are actually debating the Are you more productive? question, and the point of the post is that I really don't care anymore. Try examining the other part of the equation: Are you happier? If the answer is no, then WFH probably isn't for you. But, if the answer is yes, perhaps productivity isn't so important?

I agree that being happier is important. But it's only natural that responses tend to skew towards the other side of the equation since, in the back of our minds, those of us who enjoy working at home, are almost always thinking of ways to convince management of its value in ways that can't be directly measured. So we're trying to figure out a way to pull "happiness" into the equation in a way that works for manageme…

In Silicon Valley, companies spend a fortune on "happiness" - catered lunches, employee off-sites, release parties, snacks and sodas and beer, interior decorating and office design, pool tables and ping pong, expensive hardware, gym memberships, etc.

It might be cheaper to just let people be at home!

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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post #27

This article is garbage. It can be boiled down to one sentence: "if working from home makes me happy at the cost of productivity, forcing me to come into the office just because it's more productive is the moral equivalent of requiring me to take Adderall." To which the appropriate response is: "bullshit". Requiring someone to take physically harmful and addictive drugs is not even remotely in the same galaxy as requ…

What if requiring coming into the office subtly introduces stress of commuting, dealing with people on a day to day basis that you might necessarily not want, wasting your down time, potentially forcing you into a very sedentary lifestyle for 8 hours a day? Not to mention that the 40 hour work week is a remnant of the industrial revolution. Relative to the speed of tech innovation over the last 20-30 years, it's an o…

Yeah, working in an office is practically the equivalent of coal mining. This prima donna attitude really makes me sick.

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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I don't know if I get more or less done when I work from home, but I do know that when I have down time at home, I find myself doing things I needed to do anyways (e.g. laundry, dishes, etc.) and that makes me feel better. While at work, I end up reading a bunch of Hacker News articles I don't really care about just because I'm stuck or bored. I also find myself working a little later when at home since I don't need…

Exactly. Overall my life is more productive, when I'm thinking about a problem I'll go water the plants or do some dishes. Then come back and smash the keyboard with gusto. If I have to be in a office I'll usually end up just looking into my phone to kill time.

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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post #29

So this article is addressed to the people that have the option of working from home but choose not to because they think it makes them less productive, and haven't factored their own happiness into that decision. Are there really that many people that fall into this category?

Hahaha! Good point! I'm probably not going to convince many people to change their minds or their habits since most of us who can choose have already made a choice.

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that you get paid to be productive, not happy. However, companies should care a great deal about happiness. Guess where unhappy, highly productive employees go to work? At your competitors.

But the stipulated scenario is not about highly productive employees. The author is saying that even if he's less productive, he thinks that he should be allowed to work at home. Obviously, "less productive" is an implicit comparison with some base level of productivity, and we don't know what that level of productivity is. I think that the author implies that he thinks his base level of productivity is "high enough.…

I guess I've been doing it so long that I don't really think of it as allowed anymore. It's just something that I feel is my choice. I've gone so far as to co-found my own consulting company so that no one will get to make that decision for me in the future. I will make my own decisions about how and where I should work.

Re: Working From Home is Like Saying No to Drugs

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post #29

So this article is addressed to the people that have the option of working from home but choose not to because they think it makes them less productive, and haven't factored their own happiness into that decision. Are there really that many people that fall into this category?

Well, if you have a job you're satisfied with, then maybe you're stuck doing what you're already doing. But if you're job hunting, you can prioritize work-from-home. Lots of engineers change jobs every couple years, so it's not like it won't ever be relevant for most people.
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