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Those who want something like hacker school but can't attend it should shoot me an email. I know of a program that is online only and is very similar.
Like this? http://www.gotealeaf.com (disclaimer, I'm an instructor)
hey this hackerschool looks pretty cool. I see that their is a checkbox for "I am a woman" though. I am a high school-er that goes to vocational school for software engineering. I also happen to be a girl. I'm not so sure about putting a checkbox of "I'm a woman". It might turn that group away and I don't even like the idea of it too much. I'd rather have people see me more than just a gender.
"We're not going to lower the bar for female applicants. ... Women will be judged on the exact same scale as men. We think to do otherwise would be insulting and counterproductive. We care a lot about getting more women into Hacker School, but we won't do it at the expense of the quality of the batch."
- from https://www.hackerschool.com/blog/1-summer-2012-applications...
I'm in the current Hacker School batch (which is awesome), and can vouch that the above seems 100% true. On the whole, as a group, the women are every bit as smart, as experienced, and doing as cool things as the guys are. As a result, no one has to think much about gender - we just hack. I hope your concerns don't hold you back from applying.
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Like this? http://www.gotealeaf.com (disclaimer, I'm an instructor)
I can't comment on that particular option. But it does resemble the format. Dunno in terms of cost because the link you provide does not mention it. If you could share that information then it would allow others to compare.
I am flagging this. I am flagging this precisely because I believe the Hacker School experience is valuable and yet you offer a sexist and discriminatory grant to women. Hacker School is valuable due to the experiences, the education, and the networking opportunities. Do you offer scholarships for living expenses? We offer a limited number of $5,000 need-based grants for women to do Hacker School. You can apply for a…
You got a lot of flack from others from this comment. To be honest, I agree with you. I always opposed women only events, and I think these grants are also horrible. Maybe it is an USA problem, but I worked in various industries (games, banking, insurance, B2B, B2C) all over Europe and never saw much discrimination against women (not saying didn't happen). Sure the ratios are skewed, but everywhere I worked, I worked…
1) I'm a man, and I don't notice sexism, therefore it doesn't exist.
2) The women I've talked to never told me they experienced discrimination, therefore it doesn't exist.
3) My wife doesn't like programming, therefore all women don't like programming.
4) Being Portuguese is an equivalent status within the technical community as being a woman, and should be treated equivalently.
Is that what you're saying?
Those who want something like hacker school but can't attend it should shoot me an email. I know of a program that is online only and is very similar.
Like this? http://www.gotealeaf.com (disclaimer, I'm an instructor)
I am flagging this. I am flagging this precisely because I believe the Hacker School experience is valuable and yet you offer a sexist and discriminatory grant to women. Hacker School is valuable due to the experiences, the education, and the networking opportunities. Do you offer scholarships for living expenses? We offer a limited number of $5,000 need-based grants for women to do Hacker School. You can apply for a…
You got a lot of flack from others from this comment. To be honest, I agree with you. I always opposed women only events, and I think these grants are also horrible. Maybe it is an USA problem, but I worked in various industries (games, banking, insurance, B2B, B2C) all over Europe and never saw much discrimination against women (not saying didn't happen). Sure the ratios are skewed, but everywhere I worked, I worked…
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We can agree that it would be good to increase gender diversity in the industry. But you are making a leap without enough evidence to say that the reason it exists is because of "our culture's discrimination against women who program."
There's an embarrassing amount of circumstantial evidence.
To be clear I support the Hacker School/Etsy program completely but took issue with the fact that the parent claimed that it's completely obvious that the reason women have a small presence in software engineering is because of discrimination by a minority of people in our field. I think a lot more women than men simply end up not having an interest in the field due to larger societal issues with gender roles and the way we raise our children and the paths put in front of them, and this is a problem worth solving and programs like this help break those assumptions down. The fact that there are dumbasses who think because there aren't many women in the room they can act like children is a symptom that happens way late in the game. The assholes will evaporate once the deeper problems are solved.
I am flagging this. I am flagging this precisely because I believe the Hacker School experience is valuable and yet you offer a sexist and discriminatory grant to women. Hacker School is valuable due to the experiences, the education, and the networking opportunities. Do you offer scholarships for living expenses? We offer a limited number of $5,000 need-based grants for women to do Hacker School. You can apply for a…
That was an abuse of flagging. It's fine (though boring after a while) to complain about links to sites whose policies you disagree with, but not to flag them as offtopic.
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You got a lot of flack from others from this comment. To be honest, I agree with you. I always opposed women only events, and I think these grants are also horrible. Maybe it is an USA problem, but I worked in various industries (games, banking, insurance, B2B, B2C) all over Europe and never saw much discrimination against women (not saying didn't happen). Sure the ratios are skewed, but everywhere I worked, I worked…
Let me see if I'm hearing you right: 1) I'm a man, and I don't notice sexism, therefore it doesn't exist. 2) The women I've talked to never told me they experienced discrimination, therefore it doesn't exist. 3) My wife doesn't like programming, therefore all women don't like programming. 4) Being Portuguese is an equivalent status within the technical community as being a woman, and should be treated equivalently. I…
2) again no, and I point to 1, I am talking about my personal experience
3) For fuck's sake, really? Every woman wants to be a programmer, but we men are way too sexist to let it happen. Did you get you 'Prevent your woman from attending CS whip' yet? I sure like to use mine! That is what is fucking happening in the world. My entire post was about MY experience with women in and out of tech. Not some grand generalisation about women. But having a freaking PG idea that men and women are 100% equal, biologically is pretty dumb. Men are attracted to different things than women, and it is POSSIBLE (only possible) that CS is one of those things.
4) Why not? How many Portuguese CEO's on Silicon Valley are there? Or black CEO's? Or do we just care about the women but not native american men? Or asian? Or brazilian? Heck, if any grant should be given, it's probably to out of NY people (men and women) as they have the most to lose by moving there to attend Hacker School.
I'll tell you one thing, you can get many women here talking about being discriminated against, but honestly, as a man, I probably been more discriminated than them. I decided to take a break a while ago from CS to work with special needs children. For that I needed a degree in either elementary teaching or kindergarden teacher before getting my specialisation. I chose kindergarden. I can bet you a million bucks I was more discriminated there than any women at a Python or Ruby conference (I was sexually assaulted, I had parents refusing to let me be with their kids, I had internships refused, had bad grades as I couldn't turn in some papers as I wasn't allowed to do my job).