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Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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This is the new scaffolding section: http://rc.getbootstrap.com/css/#grid-system I've only been using bootstrap for a week, but I instantly noticed that the grid elements were separated not with a left margin, but with both left and right padding. This is going to be fantastic, and shows their responsive first thinking.

Why does padding make it more responsive than using margins? I've considered using padded grids as well, but was discouraged because it would lead to more markup if you don't want background images/color to bleed into your gutters.

Just realized one big advantage padded grid is to be able to use the grid classes on table-cell elements.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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For comparison, also check Foundation 4.0, launched about 10 days ago. Foundation seems to be slightly ahead (as in, already launched) in moving to newer technologies (mobile-first, border-sizing:border-box, ..etc). http://www.zurb.com/article/1173/foundation-4-is-here-the-sm...

>Foundation seems to be slightly ahead in moving to newer technologies (mobile-first, border-sizing:border-box, ..etc).

Check out "Layout and grid system" section here: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/pull/6342, it specifically mentions border-sizing: border-box is being used and in the top in bold it says "Bootstrap 3 will be mobile-first"

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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For comparison, also check Foundation 4.0, launched about 10 days ago. Foundation seems to be slightly ahead (as in, already launched) in moving to newer technologies (mobile-first, border-sizing:border-box, ..etc). http://www.zurb.com/article/1173/foundation-4-is-here-the-sm...

>Foundation seems to be slightly ahead in moving to newer technologies (mobile-first, border-sizing:border-box, ..etc). Check out "Layout and grid system" section here: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/pull/6342 , it specifically mentions border-sizing: border-box is being used and in the top in bold it says "Bootstrap 3 will be mobile-first"

Bootstrap 3 is not launched yet and Foundation 4 is. That's what I meant by "slightly ahead".

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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Not everyone is a HTML/CSS hacker. It's a really valuable front-end framework. My app wouldn't look nearly as professional without it.

It's OK for the first iterations, but if you really care about your product, you should hire a HTML/CSS hacker.

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Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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post #79

If anyone is looking for a basic summary of "What's new", the best I found was their blog post about plans for v3: http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2012/12/10/bootstrap-3-plans/

Here's the most comprehensive list of changes I've found. The pull request for Bootstrap 3 on github: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/pull/6342

That's a much more informative list, thanks!

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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post #93

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This is the new scaffolding section: http://rc.getbootstrap.com/css/#grid-system I've only been using bootstrap for a week, but I instantly noticed that the grid elements were separated not with a left margin, but with both left and right padding. This is going to be fantastic, and shows their responsive first thinking.

Weird that the Grid section is buried in the CSS section where it's the most important. See, I like that Foundation starts by explaining directly how the grid system works. That columns need to be in rows, etc... Overall Bootstrap's documentation is better, but it lacks this Grid System first approach. Still no border-sizing:border-box. Which makes me still root for Foundation. Buuut, there is now a better nesting (F…

I believe Bootstrap 3 does in fact use border-box - hence the padded grids and a major driver behind the drop in support for IE7.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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For everyone complaining about the flatness, it looks like it's only temporary. https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-...

This was the first time I've seen 3.0 and I really love the flat clean look. I skimmed through the linked page but couldn't find a specific statement about what they're going to be doing with this.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#109

A big heads up for anyone thinking of switching. Bootstrap 3 "Drops IE7/FF3x support entirely." ref: http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2012/12/10/bootstrap-3-plans/

A big heads up to those people who still support ie7, that is. Google and Facebook dropped support a while ago, and ie7's usage share is around 0.6-2.0% globally.

http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combine...

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

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post #9

For everyone complaining about the flatness, it looks like it's only temporary. https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/pull/6342#issuecomment-...

The thing I like about the flatness is it's even more clear that Bootstrap is a framework for you to build your own sites faster, and it's up to you to really customize it for your brand.
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