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Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#31

Post by alexvr » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:34 PM UTC

Not sure if I like this at all. I think they need to call it

Bootstrap 3: flat and fat!

It just seems like a huge step back to me. It's not even an elegant "flat" design; it's like they scrapped everything and decided to make all classes (even buttons for God's sake) DIVs of different colors. The new navbar, for example, is literally a gray DIV with rounded edges. I use Bootstrap on my web app because I care about design, but I don't care so much about learning fancy CSS; Bootstrap takes care of making things look subtly 3D, shaded, animated, etc., and that's what I'm looking for. I can make flat DIVs myself, thank you very much.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#32

Post by laureny » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:40 PM UTC

So Bootstrap uses proprietary HTML elements, like Angular?

I like both frameworks but is this a trend we should worry about?

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#33

Post by pistacchioso » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:42 PM UTC

I still fail to understand this. What's its purpose? To make all web pages look the same?

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#34

Post by manojlds » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:51 PM UTC

mratzloff wrote: post #30

Mobile first? There are a ton of broken examples on my iPhone (grids, inline elements, etc.).

That's why it is in preview and not released?

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#35

Post by Kudos » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:53 PM UTC

alexvr wrote: post #31

Not sure if I like this at all. I think they need to call it Bootstrap 3: flat and fat! It just seems like a huge step back to me. It's not even an elegant "flat" design; it's like they scrapped everything and decided to make all classes (even buttons for God's sake) DIVs of different colors. The new navbar, for example, is literally a gray DIV with rounded edges. I use Bootstrap on my web app because I care about de…

The more people stop using Bootstrap as a complete design the happier I will be.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#36

Post by tterrace » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:53 PM UTC

laureny wrote: post #32

So Bootstrap uses proprietary HTML elements, like Angular? I like both frameworks but is this a trend we should worry about?

I didn't see any proprietary elements, which ones do you mean?

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#37

Post by Kudos » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:56 PM UTC

laureny wrote: post #32

So Bootstrap uses proprietary HTML elements, like Angular? I like both frameworks but is this a trend we should worry about?

Which elements would those be? I can see custom attributes for the javascript plugins and in that context it's completely fine.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#38

Post by tterrace » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:57 PM UTC

ankit84 wrote: post #18

One thing I liked most is 'Responsive utilities', no device specific coding. If you want show sidebar on desktop, drop .visible-desktop.

You can use that now in 2.x: http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#respons...

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#39

Post by jaredmcateer » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 3:59 PM UTC

pistacchioso wrote: post #33

I still fail to understand this. What's its purpose? To make all web pages look the same?

Much in the same way Ruby on Rails made every site work exactly the same. It's a framework to provide a foundational starting point that is already consistent rather than trying to build a consistent style guide and toolset from scratch every time.

Re: Bootstrap 3 preview

#40

Post by jschuur » Sun, Mar 10, 2013, 4:06 PM UTC

pistacchioso wrote: post #33

I still fail to understand this. What's its purpose? To make all web pages look the same?

One purpose is to allow less design inclined developers to rapidly produce a decent looking prototype that people can play around with.