Stop Corporate Takeover of New Internet Names
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#2This is why we need something like namecoin to take off: http://dot-bit.org/Main_Page
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#4An open requirement from ICANN won't prevent Amazon requiring something outrageous ($1'000+) per domain that most won't afford.
Any open requirements should come as a maximum price limit for creating new additional entries under the TLD.
Hopefully they'll also include non-discriminatory pricing (so that the owner of a TLD won't be able to raise the rent once a specific domain becomes popular in traffic/sales).
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#5I somewhat doubt that most of these new domains will catch on. We already have .jobs, .aero, .travel and .mobi which I have yet to run into while browsing the web.
Plus people have already gotten used to recognizing a domain name simply by having a string of characters followed by .com or one of the other popular TLDs. Trying to keep them from prefixing the domain with www has been a losing battle.
I could see .app taking off though.
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#6An open requirement from ICANN won't prevent Amazon requiring something outrageous ($1'000+) per domain that most won't afford. Any open requirements should come as a maximum price limit for creating new additional entries under the TLD. Hopefully they'll also include non-discriminatory pricing (so that the owner of a TLD won't be able to raise the rent once a specific domain becomes popular in traffic/sales).
That would be a PR nightmare for Amazon - instead of the PR coup that giving them away for free would be. Would be one helluva promotional tool for AWS if it came with unlimited free .app domains.
I don't understand why people are so quick to assume companies are buying these up for nefarious reasons or to harm consumers.
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#7It's a little unnerving that large companies want control over some entire gTLDs. I wonder if Google will let iOS app developers have ".app" domains? I doubt it.
For example, here are some relevant portions from Google's applications for the .app gTLD:
(Note: Charleston Road Registry is a company wholly owned by Google.)
The proposed gTLD will provide Google with direct association to the term ʺapp,ʺ which is an abbreviation of ʺapplication.ʺ The mission of this gTLD, .app, is to provide a dedicated domain space in which Google and select members of its application developer network (“Network”) can enact second-level domains that relate to the offering of Google’s and its Network’s applications and application-specific content. Charleston Road Registry expects uses of the gTLD may include but are not limited to Chrome applications, web applications, Google App Engine applications, Android applications, and mobile applications on other platforms. The proposed gTLD will enhance consumer choice by providing new availability in the second-level domain space in which Google and its Network can deliver new content and offerings. It also creates new layers of organization on the Internet and signals the kind of content available in the domain.
Charleston Road Registry intends to operate the proposed gTLD as a closed registry with Google as the sole registrar and registrant. The goal of the proposed gTLD is to allow Google and its Network to manage the domain name space for their application offerings. The proposed gTLD will provide Google and its Network with the ability to customize domain and website name application offerings to signal to the general population of Internet users that .app websites are indeed managed by Google. The specialization goal of the proposed gTLD is to extend the Google brand and reputation to each .app second-level domain. This specialization provides a mechanism by which Google and its Network can easily link and manage their applications and related services. This specialization makes it clear to Internet users that this is the authoritative and designated space where they can find Google’s and its Network’s applications offered in association with the Google brand and accessible via differentiated and streamlined web addresses.
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#8An open requirement from ICANN won't prevent Amazon requiring something outrageous ($1'000+) per domain that most won't afford. Any open requirements should come as a maximum price limit for creating new additional entries under the TLD. Hopefully they'll also include non-discriminatory pricing (so that the owner of a TLD won't be able to raise the rent once a specific domain becomes popular in traffic/sales).
That would be a PR nightmare for Amazon - instead of the PR coup that giving them away for free would be. Would be one helluva promotional tool for AWS if it came with unlimited free .app domains. I don't understand why people are so quick to assume companies are buying these up for nefarious reasons or to harm consumers.
> I don't understand why people are so quick to assume companies are buying these up for nefarious reasons or to harm consumers.
Because, historically speaking, that's what big faceless corporations usually create monopolies for.
It's not that they're against consumers, it's that they are for themselves. This rarely aligns with what's best for consumers on a small scale.
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#9What benefit do these new TLDs bring to the table? If ICANN need additional revenue, why not fractionally increase the cost of the current gTLDs instead of introducing more?
All these new domains can possibly achieve, IMHO, is to confuse the consumer and allow corporations to control access to 'desirable' gTLDs.
If the domain space is so overcrowded, then by all means introduce a new gTLD - but keep it ICANN controlled. Either run a poll to choose, or allow the corporations to 'sponsor' their choice of TLDs incorporation into ICANN - but there is no way they should be commercially controlled!
UPDATE: Im really upset that I missed this - looks like ICANN opened up a discussion for public comment (which has now closed after only a month? Surely such a major change should be open to larger public debate..): http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/closed-generic-0...
UPDATE2: I have sent an email to karen.lentz@icann.org requesting that the discussion be reopened. I believe it is our duty as a community to publicise this discussion amongst web professionals and have a further chance to fight it. I would respectfully request that you do the same!
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would be a PR nightmare for Amazon - instead of the PR coup that giving them away for free would be. Would be one helluva promotional tool for AWS if it came with unlimited free .app domains. I don't understand why people are so quick to assume companies are buying these up for nefarious reasons or to harm consumers.
> I don't understand why people are so quick to assume companies are buying these up for nefarious reasons or to harm consumers. Because, historically speaking, that's what big faceless corporations usually create monopolies for. It's not that they're against consumers, it's that they are for themselves. This rarely aligns with what's best for consumers on a small scale.
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