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Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by ctdonath »

lilsunnybee wrote: post #155
ctdonath wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$1 per meal: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com

Most disgusting comment i've seen in quite a while. Maybe you can go live in one of these cages too and see how thrifty you can be.

Disgusting? My food budget disgusts you? I write that blog to help people know how well one can eat at that price, and to refute people like you.

If you had read the parent post you'd have deduced I was responding to "even in the US you can eat quite well on $13 a day if you are frugal and know how to cook and budget".

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by ctdonath »

lclarkmichalek wrote: post #125
ctdonath wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$1 per meal: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com

Do these people have access to cooking facilities? Also a lot of the stuff there is being bought in bulk, and I imagine that storing stuff might be a problem. And of course, there is the omnipresent fact that many poor people do not have the time/knowledge to prepare many kinds of meal.

Some is bought in bulk, but not all. In response to similar concerns, some meals listed were prepared & cooked with just a knife, pan, spatula, and open fire of scrap wood.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by bearmf »

wilfra wrote: post #148
cma wrote: post #144

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Not really. Wealth attracts people primarily due to change in relative status as compared with other people. So if you do progressive taxation, someone who makes 1 million before tax still ranks higher than someone who makes 2 million before tax, even if ends up that they make 700,000 and 1,200,000 respectively. Due to the marginal utility curve of having more money, they really aren't that different off in other non…

Rich people who live in Hong Kong do not view their relative wealth like people who live in Manhatten, because they surely travel frequently and are thus acutely aware of just how much richer they are than everybody else on the planet, while rich people in Manhatten can get trapped in the cognitive bubble you are describing and misunderstand their relative wealth. Singapore, being a rich island nation, works the same…

Surely rich people in Manhattan never travel?

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by wilfra »

bearmf wrote: post #183
wilfra wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rich people who live in Hong Kong do not view their relative wealth like people who live in Manhatten, because they surely travel frequently and are thus acutely aware of just how much richer they are than everybody else on the planet, while rich people in Manhatten can get trapped in the cognitive bubble you are describing and misunderstand their relative wealth. Singapore, being a rich island nation, works the same…

Surely rich people in Manhattan never travel?

Sure they do but on average a millionaire from HK is going to travel internationally a lot more - especially to poor countries - than a millionaire from New York, simply due to geography and living on a small island. All they have to do is walk over the border into Shenzhen to get a sense of just how rich they are. One could conceivably grow up in NYC and never grow to truly appreciate how much their life differs from those in the poorest parts of the World.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by sadfasdfa »

king_jester wrote: post #113
wilfra wrote: post #78

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Libertarians are not the only ones who believe it is not the governments responsibility to provide for the poor.

It is the responsibility of society and communities to end situations that even allow for the poor to exist, otherwise we are simply sending people to their doom.

Coming from a family of humble means, poor, whom emigrated to the US from Mexico I can tell you that a lot of the reasons that poor people are poor is because they choose to be poor. So forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic about poor people.

In the USA of all the friends that I had I was the only one to go to college. We were all in the same boat but I chose to study and do my homework and they did not.

Then there were lots of other students that not only would they not care about their studies but they actually made it worse for the rest of us in a daily basis. They got into gangs, smoke pot, bullied other students, where disruptive during class.

You know what, fuck them. They chose to waste their youth, they chose to do nothing with their lives so I don't give a fuck about them being poor. I was there, in the trenches with them and I can tell you that nobody forced them to waste their lives. They did it of their own will.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by beatpanda »

ctdonath wrote: post #181
lilsunnybee wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most disgusting comment i've seen in quite a while. Maybe you can go live in one of these cages too and see how thrifty you can be.

Disgusting? My food budget disgusts you? I write that blog to help people know how well one can eat at that price, and to refute people like you. If you had read the parent post you'd have deduced I was responding to " even in the US you can eat quite well on $13 a day if you are frugal and know how to cook and budget ".

Thank you for the blog and for this comment.

However, access to cooking facilities can be a huge problem. A lot if the stuff in your blog can be done with a few pieces of cookware and a hot plate, but even that might be hard to get a hold of for some.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by javert »

king_jester wrote: post #113
wilfra wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Libertarians are not the only ones who believe it is not the governments responsibility to provide for the poor.

It is the responsibility of society and communities to end situations that even allow for the poor to exist, otherwise we are simply sending people to their doom.

No, poor people who breed are sending people to their doom.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by ericd »

wilfra wrote: post #185
bearmf wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely rich people in Manhattan never travel?

Sure they do but on average a millionaire from HK is going to travel internationally a lot more - especially to poor countries - than a millionaire from New York, simply due to geography and living on a small island. All they have to do is walk over the border into Shenzhen to get a sense of just how rich they are. One could conceivably grow up in NYC and never grow to truly appreciate how much their life differs fro…

Queens/The Bronx/Harlem aren't that far from the Upper East Side... They're not Shenzhen by any means, but they should serve as a decent reminder, especially if they're aware that those places are relatively rich compared to lots of places.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by Misha_B »

kevcampb wrote: post #34

Does anyone have any idea of the costs of building vertically? I ask as I generally love the idea of sky-rise buildings and high density housing. To me, Hong Kong feels almost utopian - like some sort of architects' playground. Stick thin apartments rising up through hillsides. Super dense housing, but the ability to travel 30 minutes and be in remarkable countryside. It really is remarkable. I'd love to think this i…

Construction costs generally rise with the height of the building, both due to higher structural demands and because of additional functional (usually also legal) demands - like two elevators and two fire escape stairways for buildings higher than 8-10 stories. Maintenance is also more expensive for higher buildings. Higher buildings also demand larger distances between them to allow light and ventilation. Because of that - except for places with unusually high density like Hong Kong and parts of Manhattan - the sweet spot for high density, construction costs and quality of life might lie in the 5-7 stories range (typical for Paris and Barcelona). Regarding Hong Kong housing situation - in spite of the high level of economic freedom in other areas, the housing market is in a large part state controlled, with waiting lists for buying an apartment.
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